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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]First comes grades and then holistic admissions [/quote]

That's how it works. The more selective the school, the more kids that have the basics (grades, rigor and SATs) so those schools use other soft factors to differentiate - ECs, recommendations, fuzzy/opaque criteria - and can get away with it given their 'pedigree'.

Most of DCUM prattles on about ECs, LOCs and Test Optional but for the vast majority of colleges grades, rigor and SAT matter way, way more than the noise levels here would indicate.[/quote]

What do you mean by “get away with it”, as if it’s something sinister? Many of these schools get many more 4.0/1500+ applicants than they have seats.  How would you have them differentiate? I’d personally [b]favor a lottery[/b] and get rid of this pressure to curate kids’ lives from pre-K on, but that’s never happening. [/quote]

Lottery would have been better instead of rejecting high stat kids and admitting others for no apparent reason. It is very hard to see friends with lower stat accepted while others get rejected even in the same school. [/quote]

You mean rejecting high stat kids and admitting [b]other high stat kids[/b]. This idea that some "lower tier" student is taking your high stat kid's spot is a fallacy. There are way more high achievers than spots. You have to stand out in other ways too.[/quote]

Really do not understand how people who are "so smart"(or their kids are) cannot grasp the concept that if acceptance rate is sub 10%, it's a highly rejective school and most being rejected are also "highly qualified candidates" 
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