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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Didn't Longfellow sent only 2 individuals from Chapter to State this year? I don't think their bench is so deep that we'd have to worry about the 13th.
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True.  No team in the area has such a deep bench that the #13 kid would have a legitimate shot at making state or nationals.  I don't know what the numbers are this year, but last year, [b]Longfellow had 8 kids qualify for AIME out of nearly 100 taking the AMC10, [/b]and likely at least half of those barely qualified.  The majority of the 100 kids who took AMC 10 are the types in AoPS/RSM/Curie/Chinese School math classes who despite all of the training fell short.  While I'm sure that #13 and on would have enjoyed competing, it's not like Mathcounts is excluding deeply talented kids.  [/quote]
Wondering how you know this, is this still public info, or is it no longer provided by MAA?

I didn't know that Longfellow gives the AMC 10 to kids; I thought they all have to take it somewhere else outside of their school. I wonder how many other middle schools in FCPS do this; probably very few.[/quote]

I think there are only a few schools that offer the AMC exams, whether they by 8, 10, or 12. I would guess that most of the kids are taking them at private locations. I know that is what we did but we have a 6th grader.

8 kids out of 100 is pretty close to what you would expect statistically, isn’t the AIME qualification just under the top 10% of kids taking the AMC 10? And the test is designed for kids in 10th grade so 8 kids in MS earning their way into the AIME is pretty good. I know that a lot of those kids are ahead in math classes but I don’t think the AMC 10 is written for kids who have completed Geometry at this point. Not to mention, the kids scoring high on the AMC 10 are probably all kids who have been taking math competition classes, to include the 9th and 10th graders, who will have had additional time to prepare. So no, I wouldn’t expect a large number of 8th graders to be taking the AIME.

The people who post on this forum have a warped sense of what kids strong in math look like. DS is planning on taking the AMC 10 next year as a 7th grader, he made the regular honor roll on the AMC8 this year and wants to test himself. We care that he is interested in challenging himself and would be pretty thrilled if he lands close to the AIME cut off. [/quote]

Most of the 5-8% of AMC10 takers who qualify for AIME are 10th graders. The qualifying 6-8th graders is much lower, so 8/100 is a very high percentage. On top of that, AIME is on a different, much higher, level than mathcounts. Having 8 AIME qualifiers means Longfellow probably has many more great mathcounters. Bobby13 might possibly be the best mathcounter in 95% of the middle schools in the US.

There's also a DMV bubble here, in terms of outside enrichment. [b]Most AIME qualifiers are not taking competition classes [/b](except for a mathcounts club at their public school). AoPS only has campuses in 6-8ish metropolitan areas. DMV kids, especially Fairfax county kids, and especially Longfellow kids, are more likely to be in a competition class than most any kid in the country outside of Boston, Seattle, California, and Austin Metro areas.

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Couple of things: first, of all it's only the top 2.5% of those taking the AMC 10 qualify for AIME (and top 5% of those taking the AMC 12). This, along with the fact that most qualifiers are 9-10th graders, means Longfellow's stats are pretty outstanding. However, The AoPS campuses are just a small sample of all the math contest preparation avenues. A much larger number of kids take AoPS classes via their online text based classes (which are btw cheaper and more flexible, since they are online). Additionally, there are other ways to study for math contests, including just self study with the AoPS books + Alcumus + a wealth of free forum threads on their site. So I would say that almost all AIME qualifiers (especially the ones that qualify via AMC 10) definitely study fairly intensely via some avenue. The AMC 10 is much harder than the AMC 8, and has only increased in difficulty over the last few years. It is no small feat to make it to the AIME without some significant amount of preparation.[/quote]

In recent years, AIME is top 7% of AMC10 and top 15% of AMC12.

https://artofproblemsolving.com/wiki/index.php/AMC_historical_results#AMC_10A_2[/quote]

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