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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think they are equal in reputation so would let student pick which they prefer, assuming cost is similar.[/quote]

They absolutely aren't[/quote]
You're right. UMD is ranked higher (46) than WM (53). 
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities[/quote]

And yet, according to Parchment, when applicants are admitted to both, they choose W&M over UMD-CP 70% to 30%.  Revealed preference tells us a lot more than pseudoscience rankings.   [/quote]
preferences can be about many things, and not necessarily about academics.[/quote]

Yes, but what makes a university “better” than another if not the revealed preference of a population who can choose between them?  What you think is important is NOT the only criteria in evaluating a university.  And there is no way accurate way to measure the “academics” between the two in a way that you can say flatly one is stronger than the other.  Sure UMD is bigger and offers things that W&M does not, but what W&M does do I think it does quite well.[/quote]
Certainly, it depends on when and who took the survey, and what their majors are.

Harvard is the most popular on parchment, [b]but a serious student would choose UMD over Harvard for CS.[/b]

Parchment also shows Michigan State as top 20 most popular.  You think an Econ major would choose Mich State over W&M?

Also, the stats on parchment for the colleges are almost 10 years old.  A lot has changed in 10 years.[/quote]

On what basis are you making that assertion?[/quote]
The many high stats CS students I know, and yes, rankings.

For example, the number of published papers in CS coming out colleges:  Harvard isn't on the list but UMD is.

https://csrankings.org/#/index?all&us

That list changes month to month but only slightly because it's based on the publications.  But UMD is always somewhere on that list, and Harvard is not.

Look up most CS rankings.. Harvard is usually not up there.  Harvard has the name prestige, but it's not really known for a top CS program.

I have a friend who went to Harvard for law; their DC is a CS major, and they didn't think their DC should apply to Harvard.[/quote]

From WSJ:

Engineers who attended Harvard as undergraduates earn significantly more per year than graduates of other schools, according to a new ranking of colleges by Burning Glass, a nonprofit that researches employment trends.

The average annual engineering salary of Harvard graduates over their first 10 years in the field is $130,119. That’s a premium of nearly $40,000 a year over the median graduate’s average annual salary of $90,174. Stanford University and the California Institute of Technology are No. 2  and No. 3 on the private-school list.

UMD doesn't even make the list of top 20 public universities

Additionally from WSJ:

Graduates of Stanford University who go into tech earn higher salaries than other schools’ graduates in the field, according to a ranking compiled by the Burning Glass Institute, a nonprofit that researches employment trends. Stanford grads make an average of $151,028, followed by Harvard at $149,934.  Highest public school is UC Berkeley at $140,960 and the lowest at #20 is UNC at $114,076.

Again, UMD doesn't even make the list of Top 20 public universities.[/quote]
It's like why would anyone even bother attending, right?[/quote]
 :roll:  that's not what I stated. No argument that Harvard is prestigious, just not necessarily a top CS school.

Also, how much the graduate makes in a vacuum doesn't mean much.  More students at Harvard come from well connected and wealthy families than students from UMD.  So, it's not surprising that Harvard grads make more. Also, locality of the job plays a role in the salary.  I used to work for a FAANG in SV.

Say what you like, but most serious CS students wouldn't choose Harvard for their CS program over UMD CS program.  Sure, the name is more prestigious, and a student may choose Harvard for that,  but the CS program is not.[/quote]

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