Toggle navigation
Toggle navigation
Home
DCUM Forums
Nanny Forums
Events
About DCUM
Advertising
Search
Recent Topics
Hottest Topics
FAQs and Guidelines
Privacy Policy
Your current identity is: Anonymous
Login
Preview
Subject:
Forum Index
»
College and University Discussion
Reply to "Endowment rankings 2023"
Subject:
Emoticons
More smilies
Text Color:
Default
Dark Red
Red
Orange
Brown
Yellow
Green
Olive
Cyan
Blue
Dark Blue
Violet
White
Black
Font:
Very Small
Small
Normal
Big
Giant
Close Marks
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Notre Dane must have lost a substantial amount of their endowment. I seem to recall they were close to 20 billion a while ago. [/quote] Virtually every school lost money a year ago. You have selective memory. [/quote] But Notre Dame lost over 4 billion dollars, a 7.44% loss. That was eclipsed only by MIT. So not selective memory (and I’m a different pp just tired of all of the ND boosters who cite to ridiculous things like endowment but then hide their head in the sand when anyone points out ND’s terrible diversity figures[/quote] In the article cited, which used NACUBO data, Notre Dame was only down .7% https://www.insidehighered.com/news/business/financial-health/2024/02/15/college-endowment-returns-ticked-fiscal-year-2023 University of Notre Dame $16,616,524 $16,729,299 -0.7%[/quote] Found the article from June 2021: https://www.ndsmcobserver.com/article/2022/01/university-endowment-returns-net-53-2-reaching-20-3-billion-in-june-2021 [/quote] 20.3 billion in June of 2021[/quote] Yep and now ‘$16b. That’s a 4 billion dollar loss. Huge for only a 16b endowment [/quote] You’re ignoring the fact that the year before Notre Dame had one of the HIGHEST gains of any major universities at 54 PERCENT, which is why the 7 percent loss a year later was a blip on the radar screen. Even with the loss it still remains 7th among all private universities. It’s also 7th among private universities in endowment per student, behind only Princeton, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Harvard and Cal Tech - and it doesn’t even have a medical school. [/quote] What those numbers mean is that Notre Dame is placing big bets on certain types of investments. That’s probably OK and might maximize results in the long run, but the trustees need to talk to tough-minded analysts and make sure they understand the risks they’re taking. The schools with the most stable results need to talk to their analysts to make sure they’re taking enough risk and gettya reasonable return on their assets. [/quote] You’re talking out your ass and know nothing. Google “Scott Malpass.” He’s the recently retired Chief Investment Officer for Notre Dame. He was universally recognized as a titan of managers of university endowments and was extremely well regarded and respected. Notre Dame is the envy of virtually all university endowments. [/quote] Perhaps he retired because ND lost 4 billion of its endowment? Ever consider that? [/quote] They didn't lose 4 billion this past year. Previous posters were comparing a prior year total that included all assets under management to a 2023 report that included only endowment (a number smaller than all assets under management) and surmised that Notre Dame had lost $4 billion. The 2022 to 2023 return, which you can see if you click through the article, was only -0.7%. [/quote] https://www.ndsmcobserver.com/article/2022/01/university-endowment-returns-net-53-2-reaching-20-3-billion-in-june-2021 Looks like they lost 4 billion over two years. [/quote] Where in that article did it say they lost 4 billion over two years? You are not comparing two related data points. Compare directly from the same line in the annual financial reports: Endowment and funds functioning as endowment: 2021: $18,001,145 2022: $16,676,084 2023: $16,593,296 [b]This is a decline of $1,407,849 from 2021 to 2023[/b]. You got $4B because you are not comparing the SAME apples to apples lines! https://controller.nd.edu/assets/553631/university_annual_report_2023_web.pdf (Page 33) https://controller.nd.edu/assets/457911/2021_annual_report.pdf (Page 33)[/quote]
Options
Disable HTML in this message
Disable BB Code in this message
Disable smilies in this message
Review message
Search
Recent Topics
Hottest Topics