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Two years ago NATO might have been able to swat Russia around, but that's not the case any more. NATO committed far more to the Ukrainian conflict than people want to admit, and what is left is a little concerning. The conflict also exposed just how badly decayed the "arsenal of democracy" has become. NATO can not match Russian manufacturing of arms. In fact NATO may not be able to match NK's production.

The Russian army is now far more formidable than it was two years ago, while ours continues to shrink. We seem to lose a copter or plane every day, and the British can't get either of their carriers sea-worthy. A hot war with Russia would be an absolute slog at this point. We would probably need a draft and a war-time economy to win it. It would not be a fun time.[/quote]

LOL on the Russian army is far more formidable. They have emptied their prisons for cannon fodder and their human losses are only eclipsed by the losses in armaments, ships etc.

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I love how you guys seamlessly switch between "Russia is going to conquer all of Europe if we don't give Ukraine all this money" and "Actually, every Russian is dead and they are out of tanks."

So is Russia formidable or feeble? [/quote]

Ukraine is handing their asses to them, but it requires US military aid because the Ukrainians denuded their military as part of the condition for becoming independent in the 1990's. So the answer to your question is both.[/quote]

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