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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You leave at X time, and if she's not in the car you leave without her.   Do you have to go straight to work right after dropping them off?
How far is school?   Is it walkable-meaning a safe walk with sidewalks?   If it's less than five miles away with sidewalks, that's walkable.   If it's more than five miles and/or there's no sidewalks, then you drive her after you get back--but no excuse notes.   She takes the unexcused tardy.
At my kid's school, three tardies= detention.   [/quote]

Five miles? Get real.[/quote]

Five miles is real.    Middle schoolers are more than capable of walking five miles.  [/quote]
It is patently absurd to suggest that a MS aged girl walk 5 miles alone to school. [/quote]

It's not.   It's appropriate natural consequences.   
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To each their own. I would not send my 11 year old DD on a 5 mile trek alone to school because if something ever happened to her I would not be able to live with myself.[/quote]

DP and I get it.  This is one of the hardest parts about parenting.  But you really need to white knuckle through some things for the good of your kid.[/quote]
You do you, but I am certainly not white knuckling through my 11 year old DD walking 5 miles by herself to school. I see it as a safety issue, you may not see it that way but I do. [/quote]

Okay.  It’s clearly a potential safety issue, but it’s an unlikely safety issue.  Fostering independence and confidence in her own abilities matters.  You’re not doing your daughter any favors.  But yeah, you do you.[/quote]

NP. STFU. No way you would let your 11 or 12 yo walk 5 mi. I call BS on that. And none of what you note is fostered by[b] a punitive 5 mile -roughly 2 hour- walk to school. [/b]You're not doing any favors either, creating safety issues and resentment. But, as you glibly note, you do you.[/quote]

I'm not the pp you quoted, but I'm the pp that first said that up to 5 miles with sidewalks is walkable.
"Punative 5 mile?"   You do realize that many people, yes-even 11 year olds, run 10ks (6.2 miles) for fun?     Five miles is not punative. [/quote]

A 5 mi jog for a runner or kid in XC is different than a kid (esp nonrunner) walking 5 miles to school for a 730 start time. THe former is a choice and fun. The latter is not. If you don't see that, there is no point in even having a discussion with you.

And it's punitive. [/quote]

Obviously she wouldn't get there for the start time, that's the whole problem.   She is sleeping so late that she is not only late herself, but causing her sibling to be late as well.   It's not fair to the sibling that is responsible and on time, and OP should stop accommodating the one that is causing the problems.
If you don't see that, there is no point in even having a discussion with you. [/quote]

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