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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The increase in seats may be true, but it's not enough to offset the thousands of applications schools are getting each year. Many schools continue to report historic levels of applications. Look for example at JMU's application numbers after joining the Common App in 2022 - from JMU's Feb 2023 press release - JMU received a total of 24,156 applicants this year, setting a 30% increase in Early Action applicants within the last academic year and an 83% increase within the last two years. This is in comparison to the 2021 pool of 18,533 applicants and the 2020 pool of 13,190 applicants. [/quote]

Yeah, that doesn't really work out.  JMU's acceptance rate in 1987 was only 36%.  JMU's acceptance rate today is 74%.

[b]Apr 30, 1987 — Last year, 11,080 high school seniors applied to JMU, and 4,018 were accepted, resulting in a 36 percent acceptance rate.[/b][/quote]

JMU Admitted Freshmen (2022-23)
Applications: 37,055
Applicants accepted: 27,238 (73.5%)
SAT mid-50% range*:1190-1350
ACT mid-50% range*: 25-30[/quote]

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JMU has about 5000 students per year in the undergrad. So they have to admit more than 27000 to yield 5000? This is part of the problem with the arms race of people applying to so many schools. on the admission side, it’s a crapshoot for the students.  then on the yield side it’s a crapshoot for the colleges. No wonder ED is becoming more and more popular. [/quote]

Correct, yields are abysmal at many, many schools.  Look at Case Western...sub-20% yield. Clemson, 60,000 applied, 22,879 accepted and 4,494 enrolled.  19.6% yield.

It is like this at nearly every school outside of the tippy-top.[/quote]

Because they become "safeties"/"targets" for the tippy-top students.  Go visit Case western---80% of those attending applied to several T25 schools and didn't get in.  They "settled" for Case--Case is not the top choice of most who matriculate.   Case is a great school, my kid almost attended.  But it is definately filled with T25 wannabes who did have the resume for it.  My kid is at another school that is similar.  Every single one of their friends (10+, including my kid) applied to several T25s, all were WL and/or Fall Sophomore year start at at least 1 in the T25---all have the resume for T25 but didn't win the lottery.  Instead they won their own lottery by where they landed. [/quote]

I get that with Case...but what is the logic on Clemson?  SC residents that really want Top 25, but they all apply to Clemson as in-state?[/quote]

University of South Carolina honors is more appealing to some instate residents and college of Charleston for kids who prefer urban. OOS, Clemson is in a giant pile with other large southern public schools [/quote]

That doesn't really explain anything.  University of South Carolina yield is 23% and College of Charleston yield is 15.9%.

Are you going to claim their yield rates are so low because kids are picking Clemson?  Wait...we are now in a circular logic clusterf**k.[/quote]

Yes? SC residents are going to apply is USC and Clemson. Lots will get into both, they can only select one. Many of them will also apply to College of Charleston. Again, they can only select one. There are kids who plan to go OOS or to private school who will also apply to in state publics as safeties with no intention of ever attending [/quote]

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