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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If I caught my child sneaking out, even once, I would take their phone for 3 months minimum. Same with vaping, or other intentional lying/deception. I think the issue is all of your children are not afraid of you. [/quote]

They don’t need a phone to sneak out or meet up with friends. They’ll just do it the same way we did before cell phones.[/quote]

I have girls. I assure you they want their phones more than they want to sneak out and sit in the cold woods. [/quote]

They aren’t in the woods anymore. There are enough broken families and kids with a single parent who works 3rd shift. There are also weekday night parties. And if your daughter doesn’t have a phone, she either has a burner, or will use her friends phone while sneaking out to  view/use all of her social media accounts. They usually have a friend doing streaks regardless. [/quote]

Using a friend’s phone for a moment will have a much lower impact than having unfiltered access at all times of the day/night.  I don’t understand this argument.  [/quote]

Because they are still going to sneak out with or without a phone. They are still going to use their grieves phones. They probably have an old used one or a burner phone too.

The point is if they are in the wrong group and succumb to peer pressure, it’s really hard to stop. And usually it’s because there is more going on with the teen. Issues with school, family, etc….

As parents have to remove the friends out of the equation. The kid needs help, therapy, maybe an anti-depressant, maybe a sleeping med, maybe get tested for ADHD and a lot more eyes on them. Full health work up to make sure they aren’t low on anything.  You can’t give up on a kid like this. Family therapy really helped for us. Parents/teen and then a few sessions with siblings too. Some kids just get lost and boys especially, hold a lot inside.

Some of you all come in here never having a kid with issues and having your holier than thou suggestions and opinions. [/quote]

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