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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not sure why this was deleted.  Maybe because I pasted the particle.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/07/briefing/the-misguided-war-on-the-sat.html

When I have asked university administrators whether they were aware of the research showing the value of test scores, they have generally said they were. But several told me, not for quotation, that they feared the political reaction on their campuses and in the media if they reinstated tests. “[b]It’s not politically correct,[/b]” Charles Deacon, the longtime admissions dean at Georgetown University, which does require test scores, has told the journalist Jeffrey Selingo.

MIT
Without test scores, Schmill explained, admissions officers were left with two unappealing options. They would have to guess which students were likely to do well at M.I.T. — and almost certainly guess wrong sometimes, rejecting qualified applicants while admitting weaker ones. Or M.I.T. would need to reject more students from less advantaged high schools and admit more from the private schools and advantaged public schools that have a strong record of producing well-qualified students.

“Once we brought the test requirement back, we admitted the most diverse class that we ever had in our history,” Schmill told me. “Having test scores was helpful.” [/quote]

I 100% agree that omitting the SAt and going test optional hurts smart poor and minority kids and helps mediocre rich kids.[/quote]

Yes.

The entire point of the SAT was to move beyond all the advantages that wealthy families have. It allowed smart but otherwise disadvantaged students to show their chops.

TO works for the rich and hurts everyone else. It creates even more stress for middle class families. It's one more thing to game. Spend the money on tutors to bump up a 1360 to a 1510. Don't have the money, well too bad. Your middle class student is shut out of the top 40 schools. But the ones who have the money are fine. As are the hooked who don't have to submit.

It's not a good system. It's inequitable. A lot of real talent is shut out. And privileged mediocrity - whether wealthy or DEI or athletes - get the spots.[/quote]

You guys missed the major point—-lower scores by low income URM are ok to submit and if they do mediocre they say the kid has potential.  They don’t expect them to have top scores.  It says that right in the article.  It says it actually helps them.[/quote]

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