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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I will preface this by saying I am a former prosecutor. Even if we increase law enforcement, what do we about a generation of teens and young adults who feel like they have nothing to lose? Until we address that issue, nothing will change. We can jail all of the people who commit crimes in DC but there is another batch coming right behind them that are poor, uneducated or undereducated, have no life skills, received limited parenting and can’t get a job that will allow them to live in a SAFE neighborhood with adequate resources (food, transportation, clothing, etc.). If even educated people making $60/70k are barely making it in DC and these people don’t make even a fraction of that and know that there is literally no way out of the poverty cycle they are in unless they become an athlete, what do we do? They literally have nothing to lose.

Jail or the hug a thug programs provide food and shelter. On the street, they have neither. Having gone out into the community to meet with crime victims, I can say I’ve seen so many hopeless people in living situations that make jail seem like the Four Seasons (infested with roaches and rodents, overcrowded with unemployed and unemployable people,
etc.). Truly depressing situations that made me so grateful for my life. I don’t have the answer to this question but would be curious about your responses.  [/quote]

These are not new issues. They were debated when Lyndon Johnson was president. We don't have to solve all the world's problems or end poverty before we're allowed to prosecute murderers.

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You are responding to me.  Then
you will continue to have murderers. 🤷🏻‍♀️[/quote]

You know what is a proven way to reduce murders?

Put them in jail. Turns out it’s a lot harder to murder people when you’re locked up.

That in turn has an outsized impact on crime rates because most violent crimes are committed by a small number of recidivists.[/quote]

Exactly.  Something like 90% of the repeat violent crime is committed by 1% of the population.   For people who want to say it's about race - it isn't.  Compare the 1% of the DC population that are violent criminals to the fact that 45% of DC is black.  Clearly those numbers show that an overwhelming majority of blacks are not criminals.  Nor are most other people in DC.   Again, we are just talking about the 1% who are, not some sweeping generalities about race.

And for people who want to say "but jailing them doesn't rehabilitate them" - maybe not, but that's an issue to figure out separately.  If you care about rehabilitating them, then figure out how to rehabilitate them while they are in a place where they can't continue to do harm to innocents.  But if they are on the streets unrehabilitated, they will continue to commit violent crime - so until they can be rehabilitated, they need to be removed from society to keep society safe.

And for people who say "we don't have enough room/resources to lock them up" - we should instead prioritize release of lesser and non-violent offenders and should put prisoners to work to pay their own keep.  That will help rehabilitate them by giving them job skills and work ethic for an honest and legitimate life after release.  And for the people who say "but it's cruel and unusual to put them to work" - bullshit.  If it isn't cruel and unusual to expect the rest of us to work and pay our rents and bills and put food on the table then it isn't cruel for them to do the same.[/quote]

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