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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Our counselor said he can make calls but they don't generally matter. He said this is more and more true as the people he calls are people he doesn't know very well or really at all.There was a time when a regional AO was on a territory for a long time and really got to know a school and counselor. Now they'e on for maybe two years. Common for our school to meet the regional AO for the first (and sometimes only) time when he/she comes to the school. These jobs are super underpaid.  Apparently one could jump the ladder to the dean of admissions, but our head counselor only does that in the off season if no-one  got into Stanford or something.

He's been a head counselor for a v long time at a well known private.

I also know there is one teacher's recommendation at our school that is very influential. One my kids was assigned to the the head counselor one year and I asked why that seemed to be and he said by that point the application is in the room and is being discussed, the dean may ask if any kids out of this pile had a recommendation from x teacher (he only writes two per year). If so, that kid usually gets in. Again, a teacher who has been with the school over 35 years.

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The above is my post.  To follow up:

+No, our counselors don't market any kids when colleges come to visit. I already said our counselors don't make calls on the kids behalf. They don't do anything on the kids behalf during ED/EA beyond helping with lists, reading essays, trafficking paperwork, and trying to be clear with kids about chances to various schools. Our school sends kids to the same 40 colleges over and over so they have a good idea of if you're close or not. They will also say - although the kids already know this -- something like "Yale is always hard, but this year will be extra difficult since we have 4 legacy kids applying who are  above the already high admitted average from this school. I wouldn't encourage you to go that way".

+They don't market the kids, but they'll spend a little time talking up (ie informing newbies) about our school. "Now, you'll notice we don't have Honors classes here, because all the classes are at a high level" blah blah.  They assume the new regional people know nothing. This is new in last 10 years, covid sure. But also people dont' want to travel for work and also get paid shit. I get it.

+Our high school limits applications which a lot of parents dislike, but honestly helps all kids IMO.

+Our high school counselor will have a sit down with a kid and their parents if they're applying RD if they already, say, have that Yale SCEA in hand.  It's not brokering kids exactly. Mostly just, "let's think about what this means to your classmates" come to Jesus talk.

+They will make some calls during RD round, but they say they have no idea if they matter at all.

IOW, our high school counselor does less to market kids to colleges than other HSs, I think, and more to manage the class for optimal outcomes.

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This sounds like a great school tbh…[/quote]

You sound excellent at your job. Your students are lucky.[/quote]

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