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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=OBXbound][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=OBXbound][quote=Anonymous][quote=OBXbound]While the rationale for it is so that they can close the deal, I will say that having worked in this space, having both of the homeowners there is preferable. You'd be surprised how much variability it introduces if there are different opinions about options. [/quote] That’s fine, but that’s the couples issue…. If they know their dynamic, and that they usually or may disagree, and they decide to have one there for the estimate. But a company To “require” both spouses is absurd. [/quote] Again...like I stated before...the organizations that require it do so that they can close the deal in the house. If, however, you think that this doesn't introduce a degree of variability into the project scope when both aren't there and talking about options and decisions, you haven't worked in this space. It absolutely does and I can see where a company would want to request that so as to mitigate that potential. I have personally observed where a project was completed and a spouse claimed that it wasn't done "correctly" and was unhappy with the contracted result, albeit exactly reflective of the signed agreement. Does it happen much, no. But enough to where a company would want to avoid it in the future. The idea that it's discriminatory is false. The companies that require it aren't doing it because they are "Anti-Women". They are doing it for legal reasons so that they can close the deal in the house and overcome objections. Please stop attempting to make this about "discrimination". That is complete bunk. [/quote] Are you.... claiming to speak...... for an entire industry? LOL.[/quote]I can assure you, she speaks for pretty much the whole in-home sales industry. As a women, if you're prepared to sign a contract with a deposit payment for many thousands of dollars on the spot without your husband's input, that's great. Indeed it happens but it's rare. It's just as rare for a husband to sign without his wife there. If not, why are you intimidated by the notion that someone who does this for a living would want both of you there to discuss your project?[/quote] Why don't you understand that hard working professionals with kids don't have time for both people to talk about your project? The homeowners are the customers - it's their choice of they both want to be there. The sales person doesn't get to dictate that. More importantly, people are going to take time to make the decision, regardless of both people being there. At the end of the day, it's rude and disrespectful for you to demand that both homeowners be present. [/quote] Is the contractor's time any less valuable than yours? Being away from his or her family is less important than you being able to arrange a bit of time where you can intelligently discuss your project with both homeowners? You think that the contractor that drives in DMV traffic just loves to run around and come back to a home three times to get a project scoped because the client couldn't set aside some time to talk about their needs and requests? Ultimately the salesperson or organization does get to dictate that precondition exactly as the perspective customer can dictate their willingness to engage with said contractor. Free choice is a great thing isn't it. It's only "rude and disrespectful" if you are a consummate victim mentality. For the reasons mentioned previously, both legal and project accuracy, there is a defensible rationale to have both homeowners present. Despite the fact that you perceive wounding and being slighted at every turn, there are valid reasons to have both homeowners present. And if they can't allocate 45 minutes to review this project with a prospective contractor, how serious a consumer were they really? The kitchen remodel folks, in many cases, charge for renderings and ultimately a quote. I think that makes better sense and certainly places value on everyone's time. [/quote] 5 pages of people complaining about it and you have the nerve to continue pushing back. The only justification is as a high pressure sales tactic. Your claim about it being legally necessary is bullshit. The contract controls and that's the entire point of an integration clause. [/quote] Love it when someone jumps on Wikipedia for a $0.05 law degree. Guess the other party on the deed to the home would sign in "spirit". [/quote] how would you even know who's on what deed?[/quote] Well, Thompson Creek looks it up before they come to your house. So the answer is: they look up the info. [/quote]
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