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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1 1/2 pages through this thread and not a single mention of test scores. Just GPA. Or rank, which is derivative of GPA. A little nod to rigor, which can be very subjective, too. But nothing about test scores.

How embarrassing. What a flawed system, regardless the type of class a college is trying to build through admissions.[/quote]

Everybody’s got a 34; 35 or 36. That really does not make a difference to admissions officers. Hate to break it to you.[/quote]

That’s not accurate. And who cares about 34 or 35 if we’re writing off 3.8 and 3.9 GPAs?

Less than 2,500 per year with a composite 1600 or 36 in their first and only administration. That’s your 4.0 unweighted equivalent.[/quote]

My daughter has a friend who scored 36 in one sitting and was rejected from Princeton, Middlebury, Williams, and Wesleyan and waitlisted at Syracuse last spring.  Excellent grades and rigor at a top 5 boarding school in Mass. That made me lose my faith in test scores mattering 😂[/quote]

If all those schools reached the same decision - it’s not an accident [/quote]

All those schools. All four of them, all with extremely low acceptance rates across the board. 😂🤣😭[/quote]

Well I guess you can ignore being waitlisted at Syracuse with its 52% acceptance rate [/quote]

It was a reply with anecdotal information and they didn’t provide context (exact GPA, unweighted and weighted, number of AP classes, etc.), so I technically ignored all of it. But felt compelled to comment on the lack of surprise re: the four schools that rejected the applicant.[/quote]

Well first it’s five schools. Second the schools serve as a proxy for all the context you say is missing. They had all that information and didn’t admit. How much more do you need to know? [/quote]

Well, no - it was four that rejected (reaching the same conclusion) the candidate. The fifth, Syracuse, waitlisted the candidate. That’s a different conclusion.

I’ll repeat - there is no detail beyond the ACT 36. Excellent grades - what is that? 4.00 unweighted? 3.90? 3.80?

And then nothing to help quantify all of the other parts on the package.

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Proxy for all the context? No, to use those outcomes as any kind of reliable proxy, we need to know the actual other measurables (beyond the ACT score) to then apply that information to a prospective applicant’s probability of suffering the same fate, or getting an acceptance where the so-called proxy didn’t.

By way of example, if one person’s  “excellent grades” are a 3.62 / 3.74 with 2 APs, with essays that are poorly written, and 2-3 meandering ECs, how would that information (undisclosed at this point) serve as a reliable proxy for, say, a 3.76 / 4.38 with 12 APs, well-written essays, and 10 ECs, six of which bore into a particular area of interest that ties into a unified theme?

And what if the former applied for a CS, engineering or math seat and the latter applied for a psychology or biological sciences seat?

So, yeah, context is necessary …[/quote]

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