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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Fine, here is the letter that they signed:

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vSxEIf0j1H6v3R4549yxfetSBy1ioc6VHyJa3vKfvgyVFX9TAluk_1laTuSBKAyzqjF3hJT9EVw0P7a/pub[/quote]

Why is DH not equally concerned about the students being attacked for supporting Palestinian human rights?

“It is worth noting that not all of us agree with every one of the claims made in the students’ statement, but we do agree that making such claims cannot and should not be considered anti-Semitic.  Their merits are being debated by governmental and non-governmental agencies at the highest level, and constitute a terrain of completely legitimate political and legal debate.

We are appalled that trucks broadcasting students’ names and images are circling the campus, identifying them individually as “Columbia’s Leading Anti-Semites”, and that some students have had offers of employment withdrawn by employers that sought to punish them for signing the student statement, or for being merely affiliated with student groups associated with the statement. In the absence of university action, students and faculty have undertaken the burden of blocking the images and identifying information broadcast on the doxxing trucks. It is worth noting that most of the students targeted by this doxing campaign are Arab, Muslim, Palestinian, or South Asian.”[/quote]

NP - So free speech is ok for some but not all and there should be no consequences for behavior? The student letter and the faculty letter both state that the actions of Hamas on October 7 were a legitimate military action. They were not and to say that is to condone terrorism and yes it is antisemitic.

Imagine if this was white students who said something similar about what happened during the BLM protests in 2020? Every one of those students would’ve been facing worse consequences than a “doxxing truck”.[/quote]

They clearly stated that staff don’t agree with all the student statements but we’re defending their rights to express their opinions …[/quote]

I wouldn't be able to resist asking that friend about any other instances in the last three years where she publicly voiced her free speech concerns regarding doxxing, employment terminations, etc., especially for people whose views she does not agree with.  If she is an equal opportunity free speech absolutust (and I know some), I would be able to continue the friendship, but I think I know the answer to that question.  [/quote]

Again it is somewhat amazing to me what imaginative world OP (and you) are attributing to the person who signed this statement. She is a faculty member in the United States during an interval of [b]rampant targeting of free expression on college campuses by right-wing ideologues[/b]. I virtually guarantee that she will have 5-10 examples of her taking the position you think you’d “gotcha” her with.[/quote]

DP but [b]I am genuinely curious about this. [/b] It seems strange to [b]pretend[/b] this is one sided as it seems “free speech” is also being “targeted” by left-wing ideologues throughout the entire education system…[/quote]

There are a small handful of RWNJ internet outlets that purport to report  “campus news” but exist for the specific purpose of organizing online harassers and pointing them at individual professors for doxxing, attacks on their employment and death threats on themselves and their families—much of this anonymous. It is often based on very out of context claims about syllabus content or events that occur in classes. Some of these outlets have openly solicited students to report “outrages” for this kind of escalation. The results are so predictable that researchers can identify in advance when a faculty member is going to be subject to a targeted attack by their name being mentioned in this small handful of outlets.

It is fair to ask questions about overly censorious attitudes on both sides of the spectrum, but there is no equivalent to this operation on the left. So: nobody is “pretending”.

The argument that this is a “both sides” phenomenon is a talking point of these far-right actors so it is not surprising that it seems intuitively true to you; they have been very successful propagating this fiction.

I hope that helps.[/quote]

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