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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"They choose to keep their freshman classes small."

Yet when a college with a finite campus expands with satellite options (Northeastern), we lose our minds.

Some top schools could expand if they tossed up new dorms and made classes bigger, but the experience wouldn't be the same.

If more people expanded the idea of what "elite" was, they might include more of the big state universities that definitely have room for their kid.[/quote]

That’s exactly the issue:  these colleges are more concerned with maintaining their “experience” and cache than they are about expanding access. [/quote]

As they should be.  Why should Harvard or MIT be concerned with expanding access?  If they expanded they would loose their appeal. [b] They are not state universities, they are private universities who get to choose how they run their business. [/b] 
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They all take millions of government dollars, both directly and indirectly, so yes we get to tell them how to run their business.[/quote]

Not how it works.

[/quote] Actually it does work that way. If they want to get  research dollars from the feds. [/quote]

Their use of "research dollars from the feds" actually saves the govt money.  Grad students are extremely cheap labor!  If the universities don't do the research for "cheap" we would have to pay full price for the work to be done.  So I'm just fine with them getting research dollars and remaining 5-6K of undergrads like they have been for decades.

And no, you don't get to dictate how your tax dollars are spent.  I pay millions to the federal gov and my state, and beyond voting I don't get to decide where every $ of my money goes.

[/quote] here is a more nuanced discussion from Columbia University - if you’re actually that passionate about this
https://www.tcpress.com/blog/starting-points-u-s-federal-governments-role-higher-education/[/quote]

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