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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I hate the class warfare. I hate that there seems to be only two choice - tax one set of people more than they are taxed now or take food from people who need it. The problem is that we are all in this together, but neither party or candidate is acting like it. Some people we don't need the entitlement need to put their hand back in their pockets and people who can afford to pay a little more need to do so if we want our children to inherit a workable economy. Instead, we are being told by Obama only the "rich" need to suck it up and by Romney that no one should receive assistance. There is a middle ground here, but it means both sides need to compromise (I.e., give up something they want) and that isn't going to happen in the current polarized populous. [/quote] Well said. Where I think Obama is doing nearly irreparable harm is with the notion that the rich are not paying a "fair share". Instead he should say that Washington f'd up and desperately needs help from everyone. He needs to address spending and entitlements at the same time as he raises taxes on everyone. Of course most of the new taxes will come from the higher brackets as the do now. But I want to see an America where nearly everyone has skin in the game.[/quote] I think Romney should tell the middle class that they don't have skin in the game. Seriously how tone deaf are you?[/quote] what are you talking about, Willis? 47 percent of filers pay no federal income tax. they need to start paying something, if only 50 Or 100 dollars. I didn't say anything about the middle class. Most people we would call middle class do pay income taxes. Probably around 25% of the total collected. That's skin, right?[/quote] So you want the poor to have more skin in the game?[/quote] Define poor. But in general, yes. I want the poor to have some skin in the game at the federal level. Many have none in right now. Here is an easy way. The biggest nutritional problem faced by our poor is obesity. Caused in large part by too much fast food and junk food. They can eat 50 fewer meals at McDonalds each year and send the money they would have spent to Washington. Please remember that most of our poor live in conditions that would put them firmly in the middle class in most of the rest of the world. Cars, TVs, heat and AC, indoor plumbing, a roof, potable water, refrigerator, smart phones, game consoles, Internet, guns, I could go on and on. Here in Fairfax County where I live, some people in government subsidized housing have granite countertops and 24 hour gym privileges. Whoever approved that should be placed in stocks.[/quote] The poor have more than enough skin in the game. They are poor. In case you didn't notice, the biggest motivation to make money is not having money. On top of that, the tax burden is not that far off from the wealthy. A mother of 3 making $20k a year gets 10% of her paycheck taken out every week. That's not that far off from Mitt Romney, a guy who makes his income from investments at 14%. As an aside, it seems odd that you would choose to impose a junk food tax on the poor yet begrudge them if they have access to a gym. It appears that you really don't care about their health and will play both sides of an issue in order to disaparage them. That said, I don't know that many poor people who have free access to a gym. [/quote]
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