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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There are no AOs.

Every school publishes a minimum GPA and test score. Everyone who qualifies is put into a pool and a blind lottery is held to select the freshman class.[/quote]

So no more concern about intended majors, specific skills, or building a class to fit their mission... just WHAM!  Here you go Harvard, 1,200 CS students, 600 economists and no artists, dancers, right fielders or kids to write for the Lampoon!

So crazy.  Worst idea ever.[/quote]

So out of a pool of 50 or 60 thousand people (100k if you are NYU or UCLA or Michigan) you think a random sample of 5% to 20% of them won’t yield any diversity of race, gender, income, interests and skills?

More like “I don’t want to play any game that’s not rigged in my favor”

Harvard doesn’t recruit for the Lampoon, they have no idea who is funny up front. It’s tryout based. Anyone can show up and pitch to be in the club.
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No it probably won't.  They could easily end up with an entire class of CS/engineering if they pick the highest GPA/test scores.  And we already know those from a higher income background tend to have higher test scores and gpas overall simply from all the support they have to ensure this happens.  I am glad Harvard gives the 3.8/3.9 kid from inner city Chicago who has more daily struggles than most a chance, because that kid might just be smarter than all the 4.0/perfect resumes from years of tutoring and curating. [/quote]

Yes, let's undercut applicants who HAVE demonstrated merit for those who MIGHT demonstrate merit later. I don't disagree that the strategy you describe may lead to some positive outcomes (both for the latter kid, and the student population overall), but let's not pretend that it's fair or sensible (or defensible to the kid who DID demonstrate merit). It's just another form of social engineering.[/quote]

Says a person of privilege.

First, the difference between a 4.0 and a 3.8 is not really that much.  Just like the difference between 1500 and 1600 is minimal.  So you need to get over the notion that your kid with a 4.0 is somehow better/smarter/more successful than a kid with a 3.9 or a 3.8.   We are not comparing them to a 3.0 student.

Secondly, yes that kid who had to struggle to achieve everything they've gotten is someone most people would happily put on their team.  Hence why most colleges want to include those bright shining stars in their class.  What you seem not to get is it's the Whole picture, so that person tells a story of drive, determination, overcoming hardships, and succeeding in life.  They did demonstrate merit.  You are just upset elite colleges don't want to fill their classes with all 1600/4.0/15+ AP students. You cannot understand why they'd want some kids with a 1500 and 3.85 and all the APs their school offered (which might be 3 or 4)

Your kid will do fine wherever they go.  And your kid is not entitled to a T25 education, no matter what you think[/quote]

You're on the mark w/r/t my kid and the lack of entitlement to a T25 education. He doesn't deserve anything more than he's worked for, subject to the same randomness and chance that anyone else might face.

However, you're dead wrong re: the supposed bright shining stars you imagine are out there just waiting to be discovered.

Have you ever interviewed undergraduates from T25 schools? I do this - weekly. I see graduates of the UC system all the time, including grad. school applicants. I'm dumbstruck at how poorly they communicate, how meandering their critical thinking skills are, and so much more about their capacity to contribute. It's fine that you need to believe that all THEY needed was the same resources that were festooned all over the "privileged kids", but your disregard re: the biological influences on intelligence is absurd.[/quote]

They got a 740 verbal score and an A in AP English long before they got to that T25 school, they wouldn’t even be considered without them.

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Anyway, biotruths on intelligence belong on Stormfront or at your Klan meeting, not here.[/quote]

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