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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not really.  The reward is in eating the food itself: I find “whole”/unprocessed foods delicious and I know how to cook them well. I also prefer how my body feels and how my temperament is after eating these foods.

Maybe get a whole foods/plant based foods cookbook for some inspiration![/quote]

One of the biggest misconceptions of those eating the standard American diet is that eating whole foods cannot be enjoyable and delicious. Hence the need to "motivate" themselves to make the change.  [/quote]

I actually think that for most, the need for motivation is because of the additional time and money required to eat this way.  [/quote]

False. Rice, beans, potatoes, sweet potatoes, oatmeal, green vegetables, pasta, fruit, nuts, seeds, etc are not expensive. And preparing them does not need to be time consuming.
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Correction- those things didn’t USED to be expensive.  Grocery inflation hasn’t left any foods unscathed.  Nuts, in particular, are quite expensive in my world, not sure about yours.

And in this context “time consuming” is an utterly meaningless term.  How much time is “time consuming” to you?  I for one don’t think eat raw potatoes, or uncooked rice, or unsoaked uncooked beans…[/quote]

At what point did I say to eat the foods raw. Dump the rice into a pot with water and boil. Done in 20-30 minutes depending on the type of rice. No work required from you and you can do other things while it cooks. Put the potato in the microwave and done in 8-10 minutes with no work from you.

And they’re still less expensive than other foods.
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30 minutes is a decent chunk of time - it’s not a lot, but it’s not nothing, and one could easily make tons of other meals in less time than that.  The other things you do while your rice cooks include preparing and cooking your other food.  If you’re feeding a family with any sort of desire to eat food that tastes good, you’re probably going to be making sauces, which also “consumes” time.  I buy most of my produce organic from the farmers market - it takes a decent amount of time to wash all the dirt and bugs off.  You didn’t address the expense of nuts, either.

I am vegan but my family is not.  I watch my macros very carefully and we could for sure SAVE money if I was willing to get more of my protein from chicken or ground beef, at least one of which is always on sale somewhere, rather than my lovely but expensive nuts and seeds.  And in terms of ease of preparation, throwing a whole chicken in the oven with some onions, potatoes, and carrots hardly takes any time at all, either.

All that being said I agree that it’s perfectly doable both time and money wise but it IS going to be an adjustment.  So maybe try a little more helpfulness and a little less sanctimony.[/quote]

Haha, PP here.  Sorry I got mixed up thinking about vegan vs. non-vegan rather than processed vs. not processed!  So chicken and veg is a good option anyway!  But nuts are in fact expensive![/quote]

So don’t do nuts. They are not required. A vegan diet can be expensive if someone does it that way but it can easily be inexpensive as well. There are an infinite number of expensive and non expensive options across whole grains, legumes, fruits, vegetables. Just as there are time consuming and non time consuming options.

I was simply making a counter argument to the previous posters who argued that plant based is prohibitively expensive and time consuming. [b]I think those individuals need to broaden their thinking.[/b]

I’m sorry if you read sanctimony into that. I had thought it was really just simple truth.

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Telling someone to just adjust their attitude about something is never helpful. [/quote]

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