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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Tea on Fall MAP 6+ scores for advanced students  in 5th/6th grade, from the future TMZ writers in my neighborhood

230-260 for kids in Compacted 5/6
250-280 for kids in AMP 7+ / AIM
270-290+ for kids in Algebra

Advanced Students tend to score higher than higher-grade-level students enrolled in the same course level.
This is likely an artefact of MCPS being conservative in accelerating/advancing students.

The 5th graders did not report falling off their growth curve compared to past years' MAP-M 3-5 score trends

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It’s obvious these MAP 6+ scores are inflated compared to national norms. 290+ is in the 99 percentile of 12th graders and indicates mastery way beyond Algebra.[/quote]

My kid got low 270s at the start of geometry and that was enough to get him into the Blair magnet. It should not be a cut off for algebra readiness.[/quote]

Seems about right. Your kid did AIM 2 years previous to that, so probably had about 250s back then.  For the same class, the cutoff for a younger student should be higher than for a older student, because there are more risk that the  younger student is closer to their personal limit of growth rate.
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Now we take personal growth rate into account for math placement? This is just silly. Algebra readiness is 235. Geometry readiness is 245.[/quote]

Readiness and MAP score aren't exactly aligned.  A kid with a high adaptive test score for their grade may have everything covered, but may also have been exposed to some higher concepts in addition to some, but not all, Algebra prep, leaving a few deficits (with the score settling where a certain percentage of questions at that overall level are answered correctly).  Meanwhile, a kid of high ability and limited exposure, having their MAP score limited by the latter, might quickly get up to speed and absorb the Algebra material as well or better than the high MAP scorers.

Certainly, there is going to be a good correlation between readiness and high MAP score, and I don't disagree with the [i]general[/i] guideline from NWEA when considered within a more holistic algorithm.  I also wouldn't want to keep a high scorer out if they wanted to pursue Algebra that early, but MAP score not the right tool, as the sole standardized test criterion, for identification.[/quote]

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