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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you are thoughtful about your list and not shotgunning a bunch of reach school there's really no need to apply to more than 8-10 schools. [/quote]

^ This, in spades.[/quote]

Whether or not that is true, why should [i]you [/i]get to decide that, or any hs administration?

Shouldn't a student and their family be free to make that decision?

/FYI both my kids ED admits so this did not affect us, so no accusations please.  But right it right and this is wrong.[/quote]

People are free to not send their kids to GDS or any other private school that does this. Our school encourages finding the right fit and there’s no way all ivies are the right fit. They’re still able to fill the grade, so it’s clearly not a big enough problem for most families.[/quote]

You completely avoid answering the question. To repeat:

Whether or not that is true, why should [i]you [/i]get to decide that, or any hs administration?

Shouldn't a student and their family be free to make that decision?[/quote]

It seems like you can’t grasp that people have a different opinion. My kid’s school decides to do this to help kids focus on fit. And probably to limit the number of apps from the school to help the whole student body, not just the top students. And parents are generally fine with it. I’m okay with my schools making this decision for my kid - if I felt differently, I’d send my kid to another school. If you care so much about an individualist culture, you’re free to homeschool your kid.[/quote]

It seems like you can’t simply answer the question.

Why should you get to decide or the school get to decide and not family or the student?

Also, how does limiting the number of apps help the whole student body? That makes absolutely no sense.

And how is a family supposed to know that this is even going to matter when they are choosing a high school?
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NP here. DC is at an independent school that limits to 12. This is to allow students to choose colleges wisely and to spend time tailoring essays to each specific school. My educated guess is that students at independent schools tend to apply more frequently to SLACs than public school kids, which means that their applications will be reviewed more in depth, so the quality of essays matter much more than applying to a large state school. Limiting the number of apps helps the student body because colleges do limit the number of acceptances for each HS. Only the kids who really see themselves attending a particular college will apply there and will not be competing with stronger applicants who are applying just to see if they can get in, but will likely turn that college down. This doesn't seem, btw, to affect the stronger students, who get into great schools. Given that 100% of students at our HS attend college, this approach doesn't appear to hurt admissions.
Honestly, any student and/or parent looking at HSs should be asking questions about college admissions processes. [/quote]

Still doesn't answer why it should not be up to the student and their family.

While I understand your point about colleges accepting only a certain number from each HS, and you admit it is a zero sum game, it seems this policy does not help "the student body as a whole" but rather helps some but hurts others somewhat randomly.  Certainly no more fairly and probably less so since it is a limitation.

There is no justification for it.  Let students apply where they want.  Why is that so hard?[/quote]

Many people here disagree with you.

Why is that so hard?[/quote]

But no one can say why it is fair the student and their family can't decide instead of an arbitrary rule?

Why is [i]THAT [/i]so hard?

Answering again, and for the last time: Because it [b]isn't [/b]fair, even though you like it.  That's a preference, not a justification.[/quote]

Other people think it *is* fair. Again, you just disagree. You have a preference for no restriction just as others prefer the limit.[/quote]

[b]Why[/b] is it fair?  [b]Why do I have to ask this so many times and why won't you answer?[/b]

I can answer why my position is fair: because it directly affects the student, especially if they are seeking merit aid or applying to elite colleges, or both.[/quote]

OMG. Plenty of people have said why. [b]It is considered fair to the student body overall to not allow a few stand-out students to hoard acceptances[/b]. It is also considered fair to the counseling staff to not overburden them/neglect other students by catering to students who want to apply to a ridiculous number of schools. The school cares about the student body overall, not one whiny parent. You could also just ask your individual school why they have the rule. Maybe they have other considerations that go into it. [/quote]

The part in bold above - not only is that ridiculous, that an outstanding student can "hoard" acceptances, but that [b]explicitly preventing an outstanding student from getting acceptances for the benefit of a less qualified student[/b] - if that is not unfair by definition, I don't know what is.

At least you admit it.  I give you credit for that.[/quote]

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