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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even putting $1000 on a credit card at 20%/yr s a better deal than any year of college. Financial aid for lower middle class isn't that generous. The real risk is the wasted money from all the kids who will fail the AP tests. MoCo already has a 25% failure rate, sure to increase when tests are free. [/quote] This is what happens when you let anyone sign up for AP classes. Students should have a proven track record of academic success in previous honors courses prior to being allowed in AP classes.[/quote] Don't even need that. Just need to give legit quarterly exams to show progress and qualify for AP exam. Nothing wrong with exposing whoever wants to the material, so long as they aren't disruptive. [/quote] When the teacher has to slow down the class because there are students in it who don't belong, it affects everyone. [/quote] No one "has to" slow down. That's a bad teacher who needs to do their job properly. [/quote] This is my neighbor’s biggest issue with teaching AP classes. She has students in some of her classes who cannot do the work because they read below grade level and have frequent absences. Because of the public school district’s obsession with equity, those students are allowed to sign up for her classes. She’s required to accommodate them which slows down the students who are prepared for the class. [/quote] It shouldn’t. Accommodation can take many forms. PowerPoint outline notes (they provide this in college and med school). Dedicated time to stop by during lunch or after school for assistance. Referral to tutoring or support class. Referral for reading evaluation services. Email reminder to entire class the week of exams and ensuring dates are correct and up to date in Canvas. Request if a conference w/ student and counselor. Study guides. None of these require slowing down the class. AP classes are not on-level courses. Kids should not be gate kept from them and should be encouraged to take challenges. They should also be provided the expectations of taking such as class (ie you will need to devote 30-45 mins per night to this class).[/quote] You are completely unrealistic about what happens in classrooms. The teacher is not going to let the unprepared kids fail; the class will inevitably have to move slower. - AP teacher [/quote] You can inflate grades without slowing down the class. If the teacher can "not let" unprepared kids fail the test, then why would prepared kids fail the test? [/quote] +1 I don’t understand when teachers or parents claim that allowing anyone to take advanced classes results in the class being slowed down. My child has taken 3 AP classes with kids that he claims clearly didn’t belong in the class. The teacher got through all of the material and additional content after the exams. The teachers were accessible for extra help during specific days during the last half of lunch. Apparently most kids don’t take advantage of these opportunities. The kids that didn’t belong got C’s and D’s (I assume this is grade inflation. According to my son most didn’t bother to take the exams or earned 1s and 2s. So why are some teachers slowing down the class? How are they penalized or forced to slow down? Do teachers have to demonstrate that a certain percentage of students pass the class? [/quote]
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