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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is nothing new.

There are the top Ivies - a/k/a HYP.

There are the striver Ivies - Columbia and Penn.

And there are the lower Ivies - Brown, Cornell, and Dartmouth.

The lower Ivies are still great schools with very competitive admissions.  But if HYP only have a few peers like Stanford and MIT, there are a larger number of schools, including other private universities, top state schools, and top SLACs, generally considered on par with Brown, Cornell, and Dartmouth.

That’s just the way it is, and has been for years, and no DCUM thread is going to change things. [/quote]
Things do change, however I don't think it's in the lower ivys favor. I think non ivys have gotten better at a faster rate than the ivys thus schools like Emory, NYU, WashU, Notre Dame etc are now on par with the lower ivys, which I don't think you could say that 20, even 10 years ago. [/quote]

You picked the wrong set of schools there, when you should have been referring instead to schools like Duke, Northwestern, Chicago, JHU, UCLA, Cal, Michigan, Williams, and Amherst instead.  Certainly not Emory, NYU or WUSL.

Now I’m just embarrassed for you.  [/quote]
Michigan has a 20% acceptance rate. Emory and NYu have the same acceptance rate as Williams and Amherst respectively. Duke Northwestern, JHU, and Chicago have always been better than Cornell, Dartmouth,  and Brown so that wouldn't have made relevant sense to my argument. Like it or not Emory, NYU, WashU, etc are lower Ivy level.[/quote]

Acceptance rate is a useless stat[/quote]

Especially when the school has over 30,000 undergraduates. [/quote]
Doesn't this make pp's point. UMICH accepts everyone. For any DC private student only getting into Michigan would be a big let down, not true for the other mentioned in thus far. [/quote]

I agree they'd be let down ONLY getting into Michigan but plenty of them choose Michigan after getting into multiple good schools!
Michigan doesn't accept all DC private kids, even at the Big 3. They do (understandably) like getting full-pay students from out of state though  :lol: [/quote]
Other good schools like what, BU? Cornell is much easier to get into than the other ivys, hust like Michigan is MUCH easier to get into than the other T25s. [/quote]

The PP didn’t make the idiotic comment that, “UMICH accepts everyone.”[/quote]

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