Reply to Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability

Forum Index » Off-Topic

Reply to "Americans moving to Japan for safety and affordability "

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Anybody who can move to Japan for safety was probably going to be pretty safe in the US[/quote]

You are really kidding yourself if you think you call buy yourself into some version of America that is not impacted by gun violence.

Your kids will have active shooter drills. And you might all be be at some 4th of July parade or aggravate some wahoo with a glock on the beltway or your child might be walking across their campus or working next to someone with an estranged husband.

Yeah, that is what our reality looks like.

But you can try keeping your head in the sand and voting for Republicans because you like lower taxes, if that tradeoff is worth it to you.

Many of us don't share your values.

[/quote]

Various iterations of .gov have been trying things your way since at least 1968 (or 1934 if you count the National Firearms Act, or 1911 if you count the Sullivan Act, or even Reconstruction if you count the various Jim Crow laws aimed at disarming free African Americans so that they could continue to be oppressed).

It hasn’t worked. It doesn’t work. It never will work. It cannot work. There are millions of firearms in the US. No magic magnet exists or will ever exist that could somehow lift them all away; if such a thing did exist, the firearms in criminal hands would be replaced nearly instantly by the same contraband channels that supply boat, truck and trainloads of unlawful drugs, including Chinese fentanyl.

Firearms are inanimate objects. “Gun violence” is a great marketing slogan, but criminals commit violence, not firearms. Punishing and restricting decent people because sociopaths commit crimes is a “solution” bound to fail.

The idea that the United States can be compared to anywhere else, particularly a tiny, insular island nation that forcibly disarmed its population centuries ago so that they could be ruled by despots and a brutal warrior elite is equally preposterous. The United States is unique in its geography, population, culture, economy, history and traditions. One of those traditions is that the right of individuals to personally owned firearms is better than the alternative, a conclusion the Framers arrived at after bitter experience and observation.

You want less criminal violence?  Lock up the criminals. Don’t give them a break. Ignore their sob stories. Enforce the uncountable existing laws against violent crime, the criminal misuse of firearms, possession of firearms by convicted felons, theft, unlawful firearms trafficking across state lines and all of the other misery that socio- and psychopath get a pass on inflicting on the rest of us because too many people are unwilling to shift that misery back to the people who perpetrate it. [/quote]

You have obviously bought into the NRA nonsense hook line and sinker.

Guess what: you cannot shoot someone if you don’t have a gun. So eliminating or reducing access to the product that is involved in 100% of gun deaths is actually a very logical strategy.

Also, when you call the term “gun  violence ” marketing…what are safety advocates trying to sell? Who is getting rich by “marketing” violence reduction? Public health professionals? Safety researchers?

Your “logic” does not hold up at all, but the very profitable gun industry/lobby would be pleased with your post.

[/quote]

It is impossible to eliminate access to firearms. The recent shooting of a Japanese politician proves that. People get guns in prison.

There are hundreds, thousands of laws purportedly passed to limit the availability of firearms to criminals and their criminal misuse of them. Being criminals, the criminals ignore those laws. Decent people are the only ones who obey them, and they weren’t misusing firearms in the first place.

Focusing on firearms instead of on criminals and criminal behavior is delusional.

“Marketing” isn’t always commercial; perhaps I should have said propaganda. It seems incongruous that the politicians advocating for ever additional layers of ineffectual “gun control” are surrounded by guards armed with — gasp! — guns. [/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics