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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I thought this was a revived zombie thread from 2021!  There are completely full 747s landing in dc from Dulles every day and the majority of those people don’t have Covid. How is this even a question?[/quote]

Exactly.

I started traveling in Dec 2020 and have been all over the world many times.  No COVID, no masks. So ridiculous to still be restricting yourself.[/quote]

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So bizarre.  You may catch it, you may not - anywhere in the world.  It’s just a bad cold at this point.  Live your life.[/quote]

You have no idea what health issues the OP may have that may make precautions completely valid. It's fine if you choose not to take precautions, but don't call those 'ridiculous' who do, or say that their experience will be that of a bad cold. 
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It is ridiculous. COVID isn’t going anywhere. Maybe you missed it but we can’t shelter and mask our way out of it spreading. At this point you either have to risk it or decide to live your life as a hermit.  But if you’re going to pick the hermit route, don’t pop your head out of your hole once in a while to ask where you can fly to in Europe and not get COVID.  Get real.  The trauma of the pandemic made these precautions pathological with a shocking number of people.[/quote]

You sound like a delightful person who is open to considering that everyone else’s reality and experience may not line up with your own. I’m so sorry I don’t know you IRL. I bet OP is too - you’d impart some sense onto them and their pathological precautions. [/quote]

Sarcasm aside, the poster had a valid point. Many people, especially in the US, seem to have been traumatized by Covid fears, probably because of the unhealthy obsession of the US media and how it was reported. To use as a case point, no one in Europe is masking toddlers but I still see it happen in US supermarkets.

Contrary to what is fashionable to proclaim these days, we don't live in a world with personal realities and personal truths. There is one reality. That is why it is called reality, not imagination. The data is explicitly clear. For OP, there are two options. Either she has (real) health issues that makes Covid a genuine health risk, or she is much more fearful than she needs to be given that [b]Covid for the vast majority can be handled like a mild virus[/b], if it gets that bad. If she is the former, then travel should be out of the question.

If she has worries, I would advise her to speak with her doctor. If the doctor says no problem, then she has nothing to worry about. The question is whether she will listen to her doctor. [/quote]

This is mostly right, but do need to clarify the bolded.  That is the case for those with 3+ shots.  The key all along with covid has been the naivete of the immune system, that's why it was so dangerous originally.  I know 2 healthy people in their early-mid 40s who got covid in March 2020 and it really messed them up- one of them had breathing issues even 6 months later, and one had to go to the ER for oxygen.  It's the introduction to our immune system of the viral info , through multiple vaccines, that prepares our body so if an actual infection comes, it is no longer naive and can be handled like a minor virus.  Still some risk, as the 35k who die each year of flu can tell you.  But if you didn't go in public indoor places in the winter before covid because of flu risk, you are very very much in the minority.  [/quote]

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