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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Jesus Christ it’s only been six weeks and you’re already having sex with him?

I don’t care if there’s some way you could magically know whether is intention was really to leave or stay. He said horrible, humiliating things about you to another woman that he was banging, all while being cruel to you at home. That is a place that I could never come back from. I could perhaps come back from the sex piece, but not cruel words about me to the woman he’s sleeping with on the side. Zero respect.

I know this sounds harsh. But you do NOT deserve what he’s done to you. I think affairs can be recovered from in some cases, but this is beyond the pale. [/quote]

Yes, it’s actually the things he said versus the sex itself that’s been the hardest.  They included:

He was repulsed by me
Not emotionally invested ever 
Never wanted to marry me 
Stayed as we have a child with a disease 
She was “put in his path” so he could finally get the courage to leave 
I was over-weight (I’m attractive but 53 and have had about ten stubborn extra pounds during menopause) 
He was seeing a therapist to try to figure out how to tell me 
He was in love with her - his words 
He pursued her pretty aggressively I’d say she was hesitant due to him being married

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He said all these things YET you also say in the first post, OP, that "he is remorseful"? Has he actually said in words that he is specifically remorseful for saying these things? And have you both, in therapy addressed each of these things on this list? He can feel and show remorse for saying them but that does not change or excuse his feelings behind them. Double down on couples therapy but you BOTH also need individual therapy.

You say you have older teens in another post, and you say here you have a child with a disease; is your child with the disease also an older teen? Is this a child who will be at home with you for life, or one who is going to leave home for college/job/etc. soon? Keep in your mind that if your children will leave soon, you have an opportunity for divorce (though I am NOT saying "stay for the kids" necessarily, just noting that leaving home for college/work is often a clear point at which some couples divorce with a bit less stress on kids involved-though it is never NO stress on kids.) 
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Yes he has shown a lot of remorse for those comments 
Yes we are both in individual therapy I have been for years he basically started shortly before i found out about affair 
Our child with disease is now in college and will live a normal life 
Our other child is a senior in high school 
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I doubt he is remorseful. Those comments make it clear he full on hates you. Why are you still with him? Get your ducks in a row and make sure you save all the evidence of what he did and said so you can take his ass to the cleaners. [/quote]

I’m saying this out of tough love but she stays because she does not respect herself. No woman who respects herself or who does not delude herself would stay with a man who screwed some other woman, called his wife ugly, and acted like a complete jerk. It just doesn’t happen with women who respect themselves. Full stop.

OP, to answer you question I thread, yes you are letting him off the hook. And you’ve posted here a few weeks ago about the 36 year old AP. Folks on this site watch these threads like hawks so this didn’t escape us. I’m truly not trying to be a jerk. But you need to get your head on straight. Your kids will be fine, promise. But you need to stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. This was never out of character for him. This IS his character, you’re just choosing not to see it as such or for whatever reason don’t have the tools and insight to see it. [/quote]

It is so easy for you to say “kids will be fine, promise.”  I know OP’s kids are older but you don’t know her or her kids to make that kind of statement.[/quote]

Well, to play devil’s advocate, perhaps you’re right. But I’d rather an overly sensitive 21 year old young adult experience some familial shake up than to stay with a man who called me ugly and unlovable to his side chick. Goes to my point earlier on having self respect.[/quote]

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