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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Build a balanced list of schools: reach, targets and safeties/likelies.  That means recognizing that any school with less than 20% acceptance rate is a Reach for ANYONE. So NU/Duke/HYPSM etc are a major reach for everyone---think of them as highly rejective.  So pick a few and apply and give it your all, but do not let your kid fall in love with them and make sure they know it's not likely to happen.

Pick targets where your kids scores are 50%+ and acceptance rates are 20-25%+.
Safeties are 50%+ acceptance rates and your kid's scores at/above 75%+
Likelies are 75%+ acceptance rates and kid's scores at/above 75+.

remember your kid must like all the schools and you must be able to afford them in order for them to be real and on your list.  A safety your kid doesn't want to attend is NOT a safety.

Pick at least 3-4 in each category and your kid will be fine come March/April senior year.  They will likely be in at 50% of their Targets and 50%+ of their safeties.  Reaches who knows, they might win the lottery.  
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Based on the other post, no public university is a true safety for anyone because they do yield protection. [/quote]

You have really oversimplified this. I will say that MOST public universities are "safeties" for OP's kid.[/quote]

Having just gone the application cycle, a big nope to that.  Targets at best.[/quote]

Depends upon the major.  Most public Universities are Safeties with that resume if applying to Arts and Sciences/general admission.  If you want a highly desired major (cs/eng/business) then yes they are reaches or targets.    Outside of 10 or so Public U and the UCs, most state Universities would be a safety with that resume for general admission (general admission is the key phrase)[/quote]

Maybe in 1999, certainly not today.

My student went through the cycle this year.  I really don’t want to waste more of my energy  arguing this point.  Deluded parents who want to believe the admissions environment isn’t as competitive as it is only hurt the applicants.[/quote]

It is more competitive.  But go look at the statistics for Public Universities, outside of the Elite 10 or so plus the UCs.  Va Tech has a 56% acceptance rate.  Yes it's harder to get into CS/Eng, but getting into the general admission is still a low target for someone with those stats.  The issue is many want CS/Eng/Business and those are impacted/direct admit majors at many of those Public Us

Take the Big 10 schools: outside of Northwestern (t10/elite) and Umich, the [b]admission rates overall is over 50% at each and every school.[/b]  Outside of 3 schools in VA, all the admission rates are higher than 50% for publics, with many over 75-80%.    So if you are "general admission/non elite major" the admission rates are actually higher than the overall, and obviously lower forCS/Eng/Business/etc.  But fact remains that while it is more competitive for the elite majors, outside top 10 Public Unis and the UCs most Public Universities have acceptance rates over 50% in general
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Looking at UMDs CDS for Fall 2022, acceptance rate was 45%.[/quote]

And it fell significantly this year.   As did Clemson’s.  Applications are up so dramatically that 10 point drops in acceptance rates each year are not uncommon for schools that were once considered safe.[/quote]

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