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NP. Then it sounds like it is time for you to move on. Your complaints sound valid. But, moving on, you'd be happier, or at least less bitter. And maybe the kids would get the meaningful feedback that they need [b]from someone who still wants to be there. [/b][/quote]

I’m not the person you replied to but lol how clueless. Teachers moving on is what’s causing the problem. The mythical person you want to teach your kids isn’t coming and the more that leave the faster those remain burn out and leave too, and all that will be left are the teachers that can’t leave and those are generally not the ones you want. People with all the right training as well as infinite passion in the face of awful  conditions does not exist at the scale FCPS needs. [/quote]

Not clueless. It's spot on. Plenty of teachers at my kid's school are stellar. and have found a way to make it work and work well Then there are the ones that are not and have not (luckily for us that has been the exception not the rule). And we'd all be happier, them and us, if they just moved on. Conditions are not changing in the way that teachers want them to and so the "survival of the fittest" is going to have to act to cull out those who don't like the current situation. And let's face it, even paying more isn't going to fix those things.

Whatever.

I only have a few more years in FCPS. So in the end, this is not going to affect us. So, if you all want to go around hurling insults at parents for what are LEGITIMATE concerns, have at it. Literally, I don't care. [/quote]

Those stellar teachers who make it work? They are sacrificing their nights and weekends. They just aren’t telling you that. Teachers who will “make it work and work well” give up their work / life balance.

Survival of the fittest? I don’t want my job to be a “survival” situation. Your word choice alone shows what you really think of teachers. We are expected to martyr ourselves: just shut up and take the conditions, or be “weak” and leave.

But by your own admission: you don’t care. I am not one of the posters hurling insults at parents, but I am a teacher who endures tons FROM parents on DCUM. I have to remind myself that most parents aren’t as disrespectful as what I see here.

- stellar teacher here[/quote]

Well, good for you. I stand by my comments and some of the others on here. And, with only a few years left, no I really don't care. And as for "work/life" you have all summer off and are not the only profession that struggles with that. So, I really don't want to hear it. [/quote]

I’m the PP.

I do not have summers off. I need to work a 2nd job because my pay isn’t sufficient. I also put in many unpaid hours prepping for the next year. I easily work 80 unpaid hours each summer.

You “don’t want to hear it.” Fine. Then don’t visit this thread. We take enough abuse as teachers, so there’s really no need for you to come here and pile it on.

It’s a good life lesson:[b] If you have nothing nice to say…[/b][/quote]

Take your own advice. And anyone can visit what they choose.

Your issue is you don't like to be told you are not doing the full extent of your job. I get it. I wouldn't like it either. But that doesn't mean that the posters on here have not raised valid points. You just want to complain, throw a tantrum, etc. and have people say "it's ok that you do the minimum." It's not.

I know many teachers. None have second jobs other than maybe a fun one at Jiffy Lube so they can watch free concerts. Not one. They are traveling. HItting the pools. Beaches, etc. And good for them. They should be. So I'm always curious about these posts on here where they are all supposedly having second and third jobs . . . . And in any event, I have known LOTS of of people with multiple jobs. I used to be one of them. [/quote]

I'm the PP and I am going to clarify your major misconception. First: I said nothing mean. You're welcome to check. Second: My issue is that doing my job takes 60 hours a week. I leave meticulous comments and many of them. I have my students reflect and revise, and then I comment AGAIN. So your assumption that I am lazy is wrong, unnecessary, and (I suspect) stems from a place of extreme ignorance.

This is why I'm planning on quitting. I do everything right, work my tail off, and then I get criticized for commenting on the fact it's hard work. Heck, I didn't even complain. I simply commented.

And your comment about teachers having these lazy summers? You realize we have different situations, correct? Some of us are single mothers and have to provide for a whole family on our salary. Some of us need second and third jobs. You claim you used to be in a similar situation. Perhaps it's time for you to find some kindness then? Remember what it was like?

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DP.  I agree that this thread has been combative in a lot of posts.  It sounds like you are a teacher who provides student feedback albeit one who is unsustainably overworked.  So there is a serious problem but in your case it is not providing no feedback to students, therefore the complaint isn't about you.  Your complaint is different.  [/quote]

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