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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The collapse in humanities majors is not just because of the popularity of tech majors in the modern economy. [b]Humanities are becoming a joke on many campuses.[/b] People talking about their humanities degrees from 30 years go keep forgetting it's not 1993 any more. There's been a revolution in how the humanities are taught and the academic experience is, let's put it as politely as possible, not as rigorous or insightful as it once was. Because of the courses taught by the current generation of college professors, fewer students are drawn to the humanities. I do think higher education is going to go through a massive restructuring in the next few decades as people reevaluate their relationship with colleges and studying, especially in the age of AI in conjunction with the new ideological attitudes that have come to dominate higher education, and, of course costs. [/quote] Agree. I have no issue with humanities students who study hard and excel in their fields. But on average their study habits and work ethic are far worse than engineering students. Too many humanities students party too much and have too many distractions during 4 years of college. The bad news is that employers know it. Even those jobs that don’t require specialized technical knowledge, they know the difference between the work ethic of an engineering student v. a humanities student, unless the humanities student is from a top school with a top GPA. [/quote] I work with scientists, and by and large they are a bunch of entitled whiners. Their work ethic only extends to what strokes their ego.[/quote] DP.. Engineering majors get paid a lot more with an undergrad than most humanities majors, and there's a reason for that. [/quote] Engineering salaries are flat. Period. They usually do not go on to an advanced degree and don’t break $200k over time. I’m a female STEM BS/MS that works with a ton of engineers. I make $180k/yr 28 years in my career. I’m married to a Humanities major from a top 10 university. He went into software consulting started @$39k and was making $300k when he went independent 5 years later and makes around $550k. Just a BA. I’m literally the only STEM worker in my entire wealthy neighborhood filled with lawyers and lobbyists and a few TV new/policy commentators.[/quote] [b]My dear, you understand that lawyers need an advanced degree, right? While engineering majors don't to make that six figures.[/b] Also, as a STEM major, you really ought to understand statistics vs anecdata. Also, as a somewhat intelligent person, you should also understand that a humanities major at a T10 can use connections and networks to get the high paying jobs. The vast majority of humanities majors did not/do not go to a T10, and they don't make six figures 10 years out without a graduate degree, whereas engineering majors do, without a graduate degree. There goes that pesky statistics again.[/quote] Can you not read? I said most engineers do not go for a graduate degree and have stable - but not astronomical salaries. They stay at that $200k range. Liberal arts/humanities from a great school—well-read, excellent writers, consolidate many facts do go onto to advanced degrees/professional degrees and these are the people with the 7-figure salaries in my neighborhood. The engineers and scientists like me are Feds and govt contractors making just around $200k still after 25 years. And I have two kids that excel in BOTH in STEM and history/English/Modern languages. 5s on all AP exams and straight AS. Some of us can do both just as well—left AND right brained with high EQ. [/quote] But here is the problem: For every liberal arts graduate making seven-digit income, there are a hundred if not a thousand liberal arts graduates sitting in their mommy’s basement tweeting how unfair the society is. [/quote]
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