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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As a parent I would be annoyed if a teacher showed this movie unless it were a rainy day during lunch or the last day of school or maybe even if there were a substitute. The teacher claims:

“Barbee said the movie focuses on humans' relationship to the environment, which was why she chose to show it to her class after a section on ecosystems, plants and animals.”

There are so many amazing Natgeo documentaries on Disney+ it’s ridiculous the teacher wasted time showing this movie. It is not based on a novel the students read either. She sounds like a lazy teacher. And not too bright if she works in Florida and thought no one would complain. If you go to common sense media there are a bunch of complaints from wacky parents.

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+1. It's unbelievable what passes for "education" these days.

Whether or not people agree with religion, there are a lot of religious, conservative, or traditional people that don't want their kids to view materials that are counter to their values.

If you think that they are wrong and want their kids to view materials that promote lifestyles that are counter to their values, that is also an ideological position.

So rather than pit one ideological position against another, let's leave ideology out of the classroom and stop talking to elementary students about sex, full stop.  [/quote]

"lifestyles"

How are you going to get rid of all content that "promote lifestyles" when literally most school material involves human beings? According to your way of thinking, we all are promoting our own lifestyles. You are promoting your own lifestyle, whatever that may be.

Also, where is there sex in the film she showed?[/quote]

Yes, humans have lifestyles. But they aren't showing a film of my lifestyle to children. Nor would I recommend doing that, it's NSFW and definitely not for school.  [/quote]

So you agree, no movies that show any kind of human romantic relationship/partnership of any kind should ever be shown to children.[/quote]

They should stick to educational documentaries like natgeo, as a pp suggested.

In nature, the vast majority of sex is heterosexual.  It's fine to show March of the Penguin, for example, and its portrayal of heterosexual penguins. Im not aware of a gay penguin documentary, or a documentary where a boy penguin wishes it could lay eggs or anything like that. If such a documentary exist it would be interesting to watch.

But yes. I think our culture is now bifurcated between secularists and traditionalists, and both sides treat their views as religious in nature. So that limits what it is acceptable for public schools to screen during movie time.  [/quote]

In nature, the vast majority of creatures are not disabled or deformed. So that means movies shouldn’t promote the disabled or deformed lifestyle, right? [/quote]

What are you talking about? Disabled and deformed animals are totally normal and occur with likely the same frequency as humans. Omg. Go touch grass, and notice the 3-legged and tailless squirrels while you're at it. Genuinely wondering if I'm debating a bot now.  [/quote]

Ok and the hundreds of animal species that engage in homosexual behavior, of which humans happen to be one of those species, we are allowed to acknowledge what occurs naturally, just not if it's a homo sapien? [/quote]

The issue is that most parents don't approve of discussions of sex or sexual relationships of any type in elementary school. And then a large subset of parents explicitly don't approve of gay relationships. I don't agree with them. But I respect religious minorities.  I don't think we should create a situation where only secular children can attend public schools. The consequences of that kind of segregation are not something that will help our society.  [/quote]

If a child attends school, they are going to see and hear things. The child is going to be exposed to kids with gay parents regardless of what movie is shown. A movie that shows that homosexuality exists (and does NOT show sex) isn't any different. Because homosexuality exists. That's it. [/quote]

Teachers are in a position of authority.  When a teacher expresses her opinion to young students, it is taken as fact.  The teacher choosing to show this movie to a captive audience all while knowing many parents would disagree was highly inappropriate.  She knew what she was doing but thought she’d get away with it because she was leaving the school anyway.  Now she has to face consequences she maybe didn’t consider.  No sympathy here.

I don’t mind as much when my kids hear things from their peers because I know my opinions matter more to them.  They can always come to me to fact check their friends and that opens doors for me to help shape values.  That’s what PARENTS are supposed to do.[/quote]

Many teachers intentionally try to teach children progressive values because they believe raising children with conservative values is inherently abusive. I think you give them too much credit when you say "maybe she didn't consider that."  I suspect she fully understood and aired it with the intention of exposing the children to values compatible with her own.  [/quote]

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