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[b]Everyone goes off to grad school so it feels a bit high-schoolish[/b], albeit an alternative high school[/quote]

I have no connection to Grinnell whatsoever, but that's a weird take.  [b]You're suggesting that students who are going on to grad school from college are less mature?  [/b]Because they know what they want to study and are ready to make a commitment to that?     [/quote]

Not pp but it means they’re delaying entry into the real world & job market. [/quote]

Meh -- grad school is the real world -- there are deadlines and professors/bosses and coworkers/peers and unless you're in a very long-term PhD program, you're starting to look for a job almost from the get-go.  I say this as someone who worked for two years between college and law school.  When I went back to school, I found my daily routine to be much the same as it was when I worked.  The major difference (besides not having a regular paycheck) was that I worked every weekend in law school, but had a longer winter break.  [/quote]

I meant that attending an LAC in a rural, isolated location is a way to delay entry into the real world & job market as it is a continuation of high school that almost necessitates that one attend grad school.[/quote]

I get the idea that a SLAC can have a more “prep school” feel than a large university but fundamentally the college education one might receive at a SLAC is no different from what one might receive at a mid-sized or larger university. You could argue that some majors (like business or comp sci) prepare one for immediate entry into the workforce than others (like comparative literature). But that has nothing to do with small vs large school. You can go to UVA and major in the humanities like thousands of kids do and it’s the same deal. [/quote]

I don't disagree with your assessment. Different environments do affect one's undergraduate experience even though studying the same major.[/quote]

Continuing: The undergraduate college experience will be quite different for a student studying a humanities major at the University of Virginia versus a student studying the same major at Grinnell College.

A large or mid-sized university will offer a greater variety of courses in one's major as well as expose the student to a wider variety of students and professors.

Different does not necessarily equate to superior or inferior as much depends upon the individual student's preferences and comfort level.[/quote]

You’re drawing too much of a distinction between a SLAC college experience and a larger school. All colleges are bubbles. SLAC grads are no less well prepared for the real world than Ohio State grads. SLAC students may enter grad school more frequently because they are more scholarly, they come from more affluent backgrounds esp vs public, and they are not normally pursuing business degrees or other directly pre-professional degrees. [/quote]

^^ To add to this, your comments have a really stupid vibe. You’re basically saying SLACs are like some kind of post high school extension whereas [b]large schools offer some kind of adult educational experience. [/b]And this is why SLAC grads may end up at law school, med school, business school, PhD programs more frequently. You are twisting the fact that SLAC grads pursue advanced degrees into some kind of indictment of SLACs. It’s ridiculous. SLAC grads are smart and often come from wealthy backgrounds aka they can afford grad school. This is why they go. [/quote]

Because they do. Kids at Ohio State live off-campus in Columbus, handle leases, deal with landlords, take public transit, cook their own food, source their own furniture, many are working at establishments in the city to make rent & tuition and are in classes with hundreds of kids. [/quote]

Ridiculous. You send your kid to college to study great ideas and interact with brilliant motivated professors and students - [b]not to haggle with dirtbag landlords and evade mentally ill people on public transit.[/b] By your logic, a kid should work at a 7/11 instead of enrolling at Amherst. I went to an Ivy League school and had virtually zero “real world” things to contend with and it was just fine. It could not have been more of a bubble. Plenty of time for kids to deal with real world drudgery the rest of their lives. [/quote]

Your viewpoint is telling. [/quote]

Your overall position is preposterous. Your argument is this: because LACS are just glorified boarding schools that prevent kids from growing up, these deficient young people are then often forced to go to medical school, law school, MBA programs and Doctorate programs. Unlike the noble state u grad, skilled in the art of leasing a one bedroom apartment and eating dinner at Chipotle, who goes straight into the middle management training program at Ernst and Young! You are a true fool. [/quote]

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