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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You don’t sound very familiar with A meet at a dual meet format. Do you have a HS or college swimmer (I do and I was one- which means I’m also very familiar with club meets). [b]So A meats run one heat of boys and one heat of girls.[/b]  If you mix genders you have two heats 3 scoring entries  per team per event. A trans girl swimmer would have to fill a male slot in the entries and then you could race them based on time, the fastest heat would usually be all the boys and the first heat girls (but you’d have a few exceptions especially at teams without a lot of year round swimmers)[/quote]

This isn’t rocket science. Enter the kids and their seed times. Run the mixed gender/age heats. Calculate the scores at the end depending on time. The times supercede the order of heat finishes. Accept thanks from parents for a shortened meet. [/quote]

I don’t think you know how nvsl ‘a’ meets work.  USA seimming meeting are not run like ‘a’ meets.  In an a meet each team gets to enter 3 boys and 3 girls in each age group event.  They are assigned lanes by team, not by time.   So there is not a way to accommodate’ a biological boy who wants to swim in the girls event.   It’s definitely not shortening the meet.  The meet is just 1 heat of everything.    B meets vary much more.  [/quote]

Again, it’s not rocket science. The big change is that nvsl has to change the rules and assign heats and lanes by times and not by teams/age/gender. Each kid comes into the meet with a seed time or NT. The 25’s stay 8U or 10U for fly and the rest are 14u 50’s. You put all the entries in psych sheet order and make heats from that order. There will be 10u girls who have faster seed times than some 12u and even 14u boys. The reason why this make the meet run faster is that you won’t have multiple heats of 50 free/fly/breast/back where there is one kid in each heat who is 10 sec slower than everyone else. Take a look at an A meet on meet mobile and imagine that all the 50 fly races are grouped by time alone. All the kids who take more than a minute are grouped together. Half empty heats can be consolidated.

I took a quick look at a random A meet last season - they ran 6 heats of 50 fly for the three age groups of boys and girls in a 6 lane pool. There were only 24 swimmers in those heats. There were 6 swimmers in 3 heats with times of 50 sec+. If you had mixed heats, you would have had 4 heats and put the 6 slowest swimmers in one heat. Conservatively, this would have shaved 3-4 minutes of swim time, plus another few minutes to get swimmers ready, timers ready etc between heats, so 6-8 min total. Repeat for other 50’s and now your event length is 20-25 min shorter. Combine relays to fill the lanes and now your meet can drop another 10-15 min.

Regardless of fairness, nvsl might consider this rule change to allow faster meets when there is approaching weather. In a pool that can run 8 lanes, the meet can really zip by if mixed heats were allowed. [/quote]

NVSL is not one for change.[/quote]

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