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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To append a previous/similar post:

The Ivies do attract the absolute best.  I've done both - midwest state flagship (undergrad) to Ivy (grad). There is no comparison. Trust me, the Ivy is a different league altogether and it allows you to truly peel away from the ordinary. However, do NOT obsess too much about the undergrad level.  I personally was not overly impressed with the caliber of undergrads at the Ivy school I attended, and I know because I was a TA. The students in the grad or professional programs are worlds apart and represent the most talented group on campus. Get your degree anywhere and excel. I've met people who started at a community college, transferred to a four-year college and admitted to medical school at my Ivy.

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Which Ivy ?

Worthless post without naming the particular Ivy ?

My money is on Columbia.[/quote]

Would like to know which Ivy you are referring to as well. Because I followed a similar path to you - State U in the Midwest to Yale PhD and, now, I am back teaching at a State U - and my experience has been the total opposite. ~95% of the Yale undergrads I’ve interacted with have been whip-smart, engaged, challenging, hard-working. These kids would come to class always prepared, many even did more than what was required, asked me challenging questions and were actively engaged in their learning. At the State U, it’s the opposite for me - only 5% of the class is at the level of the Yale undergrads, the remaining either does the bare minimum and/or is not engaged at all and cares more about what party they’ll go to on the weekend than the course material.

Also, your post smacks a bit of bitterness and resentment. I can tell because I’ve encountered it among some of my fellow Yale PhDs. Somehow deep inside they resented that they never made it to an Ivy undergrad and would try to put the undergrads down to make themselves feel better about that fact. It didn’t help that at Yale you really do feel that the undergrads are at the heart of Yale University. I think you are trying to do the same by posting this thread, and I am glad that so many on here are calling you out on your BS.[/quote]

NP.  I went to H for undergrad and MIT for grad school in the sciences.  My experience matches the OP’s. [/quote]

So you were a dumbass in college but miraculously became a genius in grad school only to have to teach a bunch of idiot undergrads at MIT?
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