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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If that’s what people on here mean when they say “Great ECs” my kid has a better shot than I thought. I though “Great ECs” meant State champion sprinter and Academic Decathalon 2d Place.  The stuff listed by pp is attainable![/quote]

music though I think is the real EC schools like to see even if it's not national level. [/quote]

Where is your evidence for this?[/quote]

Yes, I'd wonder about thus. But Harvard does like well rounded and especially looks for commitment to service. Still think PP's kid is probably not applying from DMV though.[/quote]

I also think there are hooks we're not be told about. My kid with these kind of stats and ECs was competing with classmates with patents for detecting eye diseases or who had discovered solutions to math mysteries that university professors hadn't been able to solve in the last 100 years. I also wonder about whether participation in girl scouts and bumble bee soccer in kindergarten should count.[/quote]

NP here. I will say up front that my kid goes to a DC private, which many say is a hook in itself.  But the kids accepted to Ivies are very smart but no one has a patent and a lot have what I would consider good ECs (student government, varsity athlete, plays instrument) but all interests at the school.  Maybe we are talking past each other on math because some Ivy kids were taking extremely high level math but many simply had BC Calc. And there are also athletes, who are not always top kids (some are) but have a lot of sports talent and will be able to manage the academics just as they have in HS.  Legacy does seem to help but not all admitted kids are legacy.

Anyway, I think there are way more qualified kids than spots so many worthy kids are denied. But the myth of the “super student” is inflated on this board, imo.  You would find all of them impressive but they haven’t cured cancer.[/quote]

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