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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]SS has been in decline since the 80s, except the 2000s real estate boom probably put a band aid on it. [/quote]

The only thing declining since the 90’s is the murder rate[/quote]

That may be true nationally, and it might even be true for Montgomery County, but residents of DTSS got together a few weeks ago to examine data and found violent crimes have genuinely surged in the area. Lack of police presence is a big part of it. Despite promises to increase the presence in DTSS, I've seen no evidence of it. I literally watched a woman in a big pickup truck drive THROUGH the farmer's market yesterday, moving two "gates" to avoid going around a single additional block, and cops were nowhere to be found. [/quote]

MCPD is very understaffed and they are struggling to bring in new recruits, so officers will be hard to find right now. This is coming after a council push to limit police interactions with the public. (See council task force recommendations to reduce police in Wheaton and Silver Spring by 50%.) The tide seems to be turning away from the council’s strong anti-police sentiments of the last couple of years, but it is going to take time to get the department back to its former numbers. [/quote]

The increased availability of guns is a big issue and there is no real strategy to address it besides apparently catching them randomly during traffic stops and putting out press releases about it. I don't have any faith that will reduce the am on it but of guns out there.[/quote]

If you are concerned about guns, then speak out against Jawando and Mink’s current bill. MCPD finds guns on traffic stops, including the type of stops Mink and Jawando want to end. Is it enough? Of course not, especially with ghost guns flooding the area. But it’s something. Also look into stricter penalties for having guns. Police can arrest, but offenders are out almost immediately.

Addressing guns will take more officers, more support for officers, and more of a targeted effort from the council. [/quote]

They need to do so many stops to catch a very small number of guns. No I don't think this is a good use of resources. This is a supply issue. You can lock up someone for having a gun, and get that one gun off the street. With the amount if guns out there the impact of this is minimal.[/quote]

Whatever you think of these traffic stops, bills like this send the wrong message. Criminals clearly understand that moco is on their side, and I think that’s an accurate assessment. [/quote]

This! And I don’t care if stops only get a small amount of guns off the streets. They are off the streets! I’m sure the people who would be harmed by those guns are grateful.[/quote]
. Of course.you don't care since you are not getting stopped. I break traffic laws all the time and have never been stopped but friends who are fine drivers who have gotten stopped multiple times. Guess what the difference is?[/quote]

Is their skin color the ONLY difference?  Because if it's not, then the assumption that correlation is causation is false.

Are you all the same age?
Did you all drive the same car?
The same number of miles?
The same time of day?
The same days?
The same roads?
The same speed?

that's why men consist of 2/3 of all traffic stops.   that's a disparity nobody seems to care about.   do you think cops are targeting men?   Or maybe there's something else going on there.   For one, men drive a lot more miles than women do, so they are more at risk of being seen on the road by a police officer.  And therefore more at risk for being pulled over.   We won't even get into who speeds more often, who modifies their exhaust more often, who tints their windows more often....[/quote]

Black people don't speed more often than White people[/quote]

nobody is talking about speed enforcement being discriminatory. people care about low level violations like busted taillights. [/quote]

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