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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It would be nice if there was a way to just get a list of all MCPS schools rather than having to look up one at a time.[/quote]

Use this page: https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/SchoolsList/Index?l=15[/quote]

OK, fine. Here they are

School	Total Earned Points
Whitman	83.6
Churchill	82.8
Wootton	80.4
BCC	76.2
Walter Johnson	76
Richard Montgomery	70.4
Poolesville	69.7
Sherwood	68.8
Northwest	68
Clarksburg	66.9
Damascus	66.3
Quince Orchard	65.7
Rockville	65.3
Einstein	63.9
Blair	63.2
Magruder	62.1
Wheaton	61.6
Springbrook	61.6
Blake	61.1
Paint Branch	59.2
Seneca Valley	58.3
Northwood	55.8
Gaithersburg	53
Watkins Mill	52.2
Kennedy	49.2

Pretty close to the reverse of a FARMS rate-sorted list. So neither surprising nor meaningful.[/quote]
+1 Almost to the exact order of lowest to highest FARMS.  I mean, you could've just listed the FARMs rate and not bother looking at MSDE.[/quote]
I think the FARMS rate is highly correlated with English Language Learners. There are several different metrics that take a hit because of ELLs. When this new rating system came out I was pretty disgusted, because it’s effectively useless the way it is set-up. Pull all data for ELLs into their own category for 4 years after arriving in US. Leave the main categories with only data from kids who speak English, so those comparisons are more meaningful.[/quote]

But then you would know exactly how many undocumented students are in your schools being funded by MoCo taxpayers instead of their home countries.  Dems cannot let you know that.[/quote]

A) [b]Not all ELLs are undocumented;[/b]

B) Every single At a Glance document for every single school in MCPS shows you the number of kids receiving ESOL services;

C) The report card does the same thing. [/quote]

And no one is so simple to think that they are.  But it is undeniable that MCPS has had a large and growing undocumented population for years, and that the population places a tremendous strain on resources.  Don't try to negate people's concerns with simplistic arguments.[/quote]
So long as there are immigrant children of any sort, MCPS will (and legally must) educate them.

Perhaps those who don't want immigrants can work to help keep other countries in better shape so there are fewer refugees of all sorts. [/quote]

Not the PP but I have no issue with educating immigrants.  This is a very transient area.  The issue comes down to integrating classes and the whole PC version of keeping kids mixed in color, sex, and abilities.  MCPS needs to let this go because no one is learning this way.  The top reading groups never meet and the bottom groups meet more but not enough for them to ever catch up.

In 1st grade if there are 100 kids and 4 classes in an ES and right now MCPS has 4 classes of 25 kids each of varying levels and pulling off in groups.

Why not put the bottom 20 in one class with a teacher and a para. 
Put the two middle classes with 25 kids and they share a para
Top class has 30 kids and no para

Change them for math levels in afternoon - similar levels.

I just don't understand the mixed groupings at all. The kids struggling are embarrassed and act out, don't care, or are too quiet.  The kids that are smarter never meet in their groups, are always bored, can act out, and many times are used by exhausted teachers, as mini helpers to other kids struggling - embarrassing both.  There is rarely ever full education going on.  Just groups and busy work. I have volunteered in enough classes in ES before and after common/integrated classrooms to see that it is a failure. [/quote]

I don’t think you’ve volunteered in that many classrooms if you think this is the solution. You have a way oversimplified view of children and learning. I fully believe in cohorting older students, but no, you don’t do what you’ve proposed with six year olds. [/quote]

What is your age limit?

MCPS does mixed ability for all ages until high school except for in Math.

Are you okay with cohorting (is that a made-up MCPS word?) 3rd graders?  I am.  Some third graders read very well and some don’t.  As long as the groups are fluid, it’s fine.

Instead, my 3rd grader is stuck in a class where her reading group barely ever meets.  The teacher is too busy working with the kids who are below level.  SO MUCH wasted time.  [/quote]

Put yourself in the shoes of a parent whose kid of in the bottom group and as a result feels that at 7 they have already failed in life. Would you still advocate for this attach that stigmatizes kids so young?[/quote]

Nobody is stigmatizing the kid, except for you.  And quit with the victim mentality.

My kids have needed improvement in various things.  It’s a good lesson and a good feeling when you put in the time and effort and see yourself IMPROVE.[/quote]

Yes, but if you are assigned to a teacher at the beginning of the year based on your level, and you “improve” there isn’t a mechanism in the proposed scenario upthread to have your needs met. That’s why I feel like there should be room for fluidity at age 6/1st grade. If you form tracked classrooms, there isn’t room for uneven student growth.

I think the appropriate time to start cohorting in some subjects is somewhere around 3rd/4th grade. [/quote]

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