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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As far as the whole "we need homes for teachers, and cops, etc"

OK, lets just run the numbers then.

a 750,000 duplex, condo, whatever , is a 600k mortgage.  And thats asumming they can scare up 150 to get 20% down and avoid PMI.

Thats still 4k a month.

Who is swinging that?   Not some GS12 and teacher partner.

Just call it what it is- upzoning.   Greater density.  It's not "missing middle", or middle class affordable.   That couple is still going to buy a place for 550 somewhere way farther out. [/quote]

Let's run the numbers. Right now, egg producers are only allowed to produce and sell two sizes of eggs: extra large eggs and small eggs. The middle class can't afford extra large eggs. In the future, however, egg producers will also be allowed to produce and sell "missing middle" eggs, so: extra large eggs, large eggs, medium eggs, and small eggs. In addition, more eggs will be available, total.

Will more people be able to afford eggs once egg producers are also allowed to produce and sell large eggs and medium eggs, and more eggs are available, total?[/quote]

Youre ignoring my point.

So the 750k condo gets bought by... whomever can afford and chooses that.   But it isnt the middle class the plan pretends it will be.

Will that help the overall macro housing shortage?  Sure.   But its being sold as a way to allow teachers and firefighters and whoever to live where they work.  And that is patently false.  [/quote]

The word Middle in missing middle is not “middle class”. It literally refers to a type of housing stock that is missing - townhouses, 4 flats, and mid-rise buildings.

I lived for many years in Cleveland Heights and Shaker Heights Ohio, suburbs of Cleveland that have some similarities to N Arlington (Shaker) and S Arlington (CH). I lived in neighborhoods that mixed walkable retail (Westover), townhouses or apartments above retail, large 1890-1940s Tudor and Victorian mansions, “regular” houses similar to the 1940s colonials, and 4-flat buildings with parking behind. It was no issue at all and lead to a vibrant, active neighborhood. Personally I would welcome more of that mix in my neighborhood. [/quote]

Then why is every presentation about all these teachers, cops, etc, etc being able to live here?   Just say what it is.   We want to build 750k condos, that yuppies and retirees will live in.  Upzone the crap out of these currently existing SFH neighborhoods, because that is what is good.

I'm reading in this very thread about how home health workers will be finally able to live in the neighborhood they work in. [/quote]

Sure, doctors and highly paid PAs will be able to live there. Nurses aids can commute from PG [/quote]

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