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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I believe it. Top privates care about results vs. equity.[/quote]

Oh right, I’m sure they let the kids sink or swim when it comes to college admissions.

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Probably not an issue because of the the clear high expectations.

Not a "F" = 63%, no work "WS" = 50%, "tardy" is actually 5 minutes after the tardy bell, and any missing assignment must be allowed to be completed at any time with an 8% max deduction. [/quote]

yup.  My kid goes to a "big3" private that starts at 8am.  If you walk into the kid's ELA class a minute late on a day that an assignment is due, it is dropped by 5%. 
8:01 arrival?  That 90% is now an 85%. It took my kid one paper to start arriving to school by 7:50 (to allow a buffer zone for whatever might come up). [/quote]

But the earlier point was that you’re paying for what you want to be a leg up for a kid at a big three and then get upset that any kids at JR get into good colleges or believe they shouldn’t because they’ve had what your view as an inferior education and throw around claims that kids at JR aren’t prepared for college (with “prepared” being what the big three has sold parents as “the best”) when you really don’t know but you want to feel that your “superior” (bought and paid for) experience essential means your kids are the only ones worthy of select colleges. [/quote]

Let’s be truthful here.  The kids at JR now getting into top colleges, [b]parents have been supplementing a lot most of the way thru DCPS from middle school and up[/b].

The Deal/JR great days are gone.  It’s gone downhill since the honors for all.  Many families with top students are abandoning ship much earlier or who would not in the past.[/quote]

We have two strong students at JR. What counts as supplementing? The only thing we’ve done is gotten a tutor when a kid has struggled with a subject (math), which has happened maybe twice in the last six years. I assume people in private school do the same.

But if you mean we have to teach our kids things they aren’t learning in school, we’ve never done that. And I don’t think I know anyone who does? Most of the parents at JR seem pretty hands off.[/quote]

It’s obvious you have a false sense of security.  [b]Massive grade inflation and everyone gets A’s. Classes are way too easy until you get to AP and even those classes are not too rigorous when over 1/2 the kids at the school can’t even get a 3 on the exam.[/b]

Above is not specific to JR.  It’s a systemic problem in DCPS.[/quote]

Do I? According to JR’s class of 2022 profile, only 26 students (5.6%) had an unweighted 4.0. There were 93 AP Scholars, 42 AP Scholars with Honors, and 99 Scholars with Distinction. Seems like these talking points are BS.[/quote]

All you need is a 3 on a few AP exams to be an AP scholar.  It’s not hard at all or really not that impressive.  Numbers mean nothing.  You need to look at the percentages since JR is so big of a school.  The privates are close to high 90’s in kids scoring 3 or above with many, many scoring 4 and 5.

Contrast that to JR where almost 50% of the kids get a 1 or 2 on AP exams.  Then the rest of the majority get a 3.  The numbers of kids with all 4 or 5’s is very small. And those kids definately supplemented outside of school.

Grades are meaningless if there are retakes and grade inflation.  You need to look at standardized test scores and AP scores.  The SAT average at JR is really low, think it’s 1050 maybe?  Also look at PARCC scores, especially math. This year I think it’s like 18% are on or above grade level with majority of these kids on grade level.  There is not many high performing kids at the school relative to the SES level and education of families.  This is because most of the top kids have bailed and left the system. You have left the mediocre and below kids.[/quote]

Let’s be specific since we have data:

58% got a 3 or above on AP exams, meaning 42% got a 1 or 2. I guess you can call that “almost 50%,” but it seems like a stretch.

If there were 99 AP scholars, that means at least 99 kids getting 4 or 5 on multiple exams (since you have to average 3.5 and have gotten 3 or higher on five exams. If you got four 3s and only one 5, you average 3.4, so you’d have to have gotten at least a 4 on a second exam). That’s more than 20% of the class getting 4s and 5s on multiple tests—and that’s just from AP Scholars with Distinction alone. Presumably some portion of the other 135 kids who got at least AP Scholar also scored some 4s/5s.

Again on grade inflation, we have data from JR that shows 30% of the class graduated with an unweighted 3.5 or above. We don’t have that information for the private schools to compare, so we can’t really conclude anything on this point.

As to retakes, they’re a great way to ensure kids actually understand concepts. I have a kid in AP Physics at JR who has been doing well overall but did poorly on one test (along with pretty much the whole class); kid sought help from the teacher, learned the concept, and did well on the retake. That seems like a good thing to me. Also, the max you can end up with after a retake is an 86, according to my kid. So it’s not like a second chance to get a 100.[/quote]

The top privates all have significant grade deflation. (STA, NCS, Sidwell tier),  The next rung down and the Catholic high schools don't really have deflation.
My kid went from Deal to NCS and the rumor at NCS is that there hasn't been a 4.0 grad in 45 years. And this is a school full of kids who were all top of their sending schools. 
My own kid never got less than an A at Deal, took algebra 2, 99% PARCC scores each year, and is pretty much a B student at NCS.  
STA does a numerical GPA and a family friend with an overall 92% GPA got into HYP in the last couple of years unhooked (not a minority, legacy, athlete, etc). So that puts it in perspective. [/quote]

It’s amazing to me that private school parents just keep offering anecdotes in response to data, as if they prove something. (And school legends about whether or not someone has ever graduated with a 4.0 are barely anecdotes.) JR publishes complete data, and the private schools don’t. I’m not sure why. But you can’t draw any conclusions without it, and people should stop making assertions that they can’t support.[/quote]

why are you being an ass?  I was simply trying to be helpful. [/quote]

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