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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Part of the why is that we have choices, so we want to make choices that align with our values whether that's money or joy.  A PP mentioned being part of a blue-collar union.  If you grew up knowing you'd be a farmer like your dad, or go work at the GM car factory in Detroit like all your uncles, you weren't thinking about fulfillment.  You knew it was the path you were destined for and focused on financial stability.  Not wealth, just stable middle class life.

Knowing I don't have to follow in my parents' footsteps I have the ability to make life choices.  Our young people are being guided in schools that academics is important because it opens doors and unlocks roads to fulfillment.  If that isn't coupled with hard conversations about being self-supporting, being able to save for retirement, raise children and so on then it's easy to get lost in the airy-fairy part of joy and making an impact.  [/quote]

You do realize it’s possible to have both an “airy-fairy” career that makes an impact AND the ability to live comfortably? I have one of those jobs, and I’m still able to save for my kids’ college and my own retirement. I may have to sit in coach when I travel, but that isn’t a problem to me since that seat ends up at the same destination as the first class seat.

It’s extremely shortsighted to think people in lower paying professions can’t have things like financial security. I’m living proof we can. [/quote]

+1 the person who whom you’re responding is an absolute douche hypocrite.
Seriously a cop and govt worker here. We do all those things too. We also have advanced educations. The myopic view of those making higher incomes is bizarre.[/quote]

Ivy mentor here.  I think the real issue is that these kids want the airy-fairy job without realizing there is a lot of grunt work in everything to get there.  I promise you they would consider your cop and government worker positions extraordinarily pathetic (esp the cops) because of social justice.  I don't disagree with them, I don't think either of your professions are anything but incredibly self-serving, and then you're too poor to even donate enough to make a difference.

That being said, they don't want your jobs.  They want a job defunding the police that lets them be the leader, work random hours, and also pays their bills.  That just doesn't happen.  If you truly want to disrupt you suck it up make the most money possible and then go ham.[/quote]

Your first paragraph makes me question if you’re remotely fit for your job. I don’t care if you are at an Ivy or not. You think service professions are self-serving?  You also think police and government work is “pathetic”? You have no business talking to people about their future goals. And “too poor to donate”? That was a joke, correct?

If you talk to my child from a place of mentoring/helping, and THIS is the nonsense she gets from you, I’ll be calling your direct supervisor in a flash. Of course, the previous PP may be correct. You can’t teach the soulless what it is like to have a soul. [/quote][/quote][/quote]

LOL I was a NP.  You do realize mentors do this on our free time and receive literally no benefit from it?  Do however continue calling random career services offices tattling on alumni.  They can barely get any of us to sign up.[/quote]

PP here.  And I don't think service professions are self-serving (i.e., teaching, social work, healthcare).  But I do sincerely believe "cop" and "government worker" are.  [/quote]

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