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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The reason DCOS can do that is that they do t run school buses. Unfortunately not an option in MoCo unless they switch elementary to start early, which I would support but many other don’t. [/quote]

If ES started at 7:45 and got out at 2:30, many more thousands of seats in aftercare would be needed.[/quote]

Not sure how many times you need to hear this before you get it but school is not your free daycare service. Don’t rely on school before having children. Do research. Make sure you can afford it. I’m a parent and I’m so tired of this… it makes the rest of us look bad. Most of us have shit together. [/quote]

I think the people arguing that school needs to start later because they can't enforce a bedtime for their children shouldn't be judging other people.  [/quote]

And, this is what the actual studies are saying. The PP claiming it is inherent in the adolescent to not be able to go to bed on time to get up when they need to is deliberately misreading the underlying studies about the teen circadian rhythm -- or perhaps not reading them at all. The recommendation that public school districts start later is premised on the belief that the majority of parents of teens displaying sleep deprivation symptoms (aka teens in trouble) are unable to help their kids get enough sleep by reducing night time screens and enforcing bed time. This is probably true, but no one should excuse teens or their parents for this, nor simply blame biology. They are not saying teens are physically unable to go to bed early. In fact the studies also recommend: "We can also help teenagers gain control over their own sleep patterns by teaching sleep and circadian principles in middle and high school health education. Minimizing exposure to light at night, as well as reducing computer or TV usage immediately before bedtime can naturally advance circadian phase. Similarly, incorporating outdoor morning activity into a teenage schedule can reduce trouble falling asleep at night."

Teens who get enough sleep are not struggling with the typical school schedule. You reduce light stimulants and go to bed when you need to to get 8-10 hours of sleep before you get up. Kids who have to get up at 5:30 a.m. for swim practice go to bed without issue or "circadian problems" at 9 p.m.; kids who go to bed at 10 can get up at 6:45 and be on the school bus by at 7:20. Kids who are allowed or encouraged to be on computers until 12 a.m. obviously are going to have difficulty getting 8-10 hours of sleep because they won't start to shut down until well after they turn off the computer and block out the light. The studies are primarily about total length of sleep and the effect of modern teen lifestyle and light exposure on ability to fall asleep (except for the early studies that did not account for what we now know about artificial light).[/quote]

We need to stop babying our kids.  They have to learn to live in the real world and if your job or another obligation says a time you have to be there, you be there.  You either go to bed early or you suck it up and are tired.  I am a night owl and hate going to bed and yet, when I had to have this schedule when I went to an MCPS HS, somehow I managed.  Same for college and jobs.

My child has to get up early and goes to bed late.  They deal and if they are tired they go to bed earlier when they can or take a nap. They are fine.  Really.  [/quote]

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