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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP. I have Ivy professors in my family. They tell me they don’t want their kids going to an Ivy for undergrad and are pushing the SLACs. They also told me that for graduate admissions, they really like kids from SLACs because they know they were well-educated. Just a data point but I think it is interesting. [/quote] I can totally see this. I'm an Ivy grad and I'm encouraging my DC to look at SLACs. She has found several SLACs that she loves and I'm so impressed with what I see.[b] I think she'll get a better education at a SLAC than an Ivy.[/b] [/quote] I agree, but I still think that an Ivy is better for most students than a SLACs (save for maybe Williams, Amherst, and Wellesley). College is not so much for the education that you get as much as it is for the connections you make and the internships/job opportunities you get after -- and that's much better at, say, Princeton than at Grinnell or Vassar. [/quote] Sure, you think that. But a lot of people who know the Ivies better than you — Ivy professors — disagree with you. You’ve bought the marketing entirely but don’t understand the reality. [/quote] No, I understand the reality fairly well. A Princeton degree will open up doors in corporate America that a Grinnell degree will not. Full stop. [/quote] Most people in HR or admissions will disagree with this. Full Stop.[/quote] I'm not the person to whom you replied, but it doesn't really matter what the "people in HR" say. There are huge difference between the OCR opportunities available at Princeton and the OCR opportunities at a relatively no-name midwestern school like Grinnell.[/quote] What is OCR? [/quote] OCR stands for "on-campus recruiting" -- high profile companies visit target schools to hire entry-level employees. It's generally the only way to break into certain industries: finance and consulting, namely.[/quote] There may be a limited number of companies who hire primarily from OCR, but it's not by any stretch of the imagination the only way to get into ANY industry.[/quote] But for the top tier companies it’s the only way to get in, absent any family connections. [/quote] There is always a way in. I lateralled as a third year associate from a crappy small firm to a white shoe law firm (without a book of business) and had offers from 2 other large firms. I even went to a mid-tier law school. There are many paths. You just have to make it happen.[/quote] By far the most sought after jobs in the finance world are those on the buy side (hedge funds, venture capital, private equity), and generally the only way to get hired in any of these fields is to do one of the two main "tracked" jobs (investment banking or management consulting) for a couple years right out of college.[/quote] there are alternate ways. my funds went to a state school, followed by a top 5 medical school. He and at least 2 classmates skipped residency and went to work for hedge funds. [/quote]
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