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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hopkins. 61  , Vandy 39
Hopkins 65, UCLA 35
Hopkins 53, Wash U 47
Hopkins 68, Mich 32
Hopkins 80, Emory 20

Comes close to the lower Ivies, but can’t match them
Hopkins 49 Cornell 51

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But as OP would probably admit, since JHU is ranked well above those schools, they aren’t the peers…right?[/quote]

They aren’t going to beat out the Ivies, Stanford and MIT.  Who does?

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Well we already basically beat out Cornell, so all the Ivies can't be lumped together. And Duke beats out a ton of Ivies for cross-admits, so why can't we? We're ranked higher and we have better prestige than Duke.[/quote]

Wait, are you talking about Hopkins?  JHU undergrad is far less prestigious than Duke.[/quote]

I'm talking about in general, including undergrad. For undergrad specifically, JHU is currently #7, tied with UPenn, on USNWR. Duke is #10.[/quote]
Duke hasn't been ranked higher than Hopkins by USNWR, by far the most influential ranking source like it or not, since 2019 (which is a very long time for kids who are 16-18).  Historically, I'd say you're probably right that Duke has been more prestigious name wise but the Hopkins association with the med school and hospital gives them something they may actually be the best at, which Duke doesn't have (Stanford and Harvard, for example, would be clearly better than Duke for undergrad and every major grad school). Both are great and elite overall but not in the [i]very[/i] top group of universities.[/quote]

Yes I'm agreeing with you, which is why I said JHU is #7 while Duke is #10 on USNWR which just further highlights JHU is in a different league than Duke. Finally someone else gets it, too many people on here are just ignoring the data.[/quote]

All I can say is some people are really delusional. If anything, for undergrad Duke is in a different league than JHU. For undergrad prestige Duke is as good as it gets, very up there. I've lived in multiple parts of the country too and Duke is well known as a top school for really smart kids who also happen to be charismatic, while JHU is mostly known as being a good medical school, and that's the truth about the lay prestige of both. Don't ask me how or why this happened though, couldn't tell you. Unfortunately I've never been close to anyone who went to either school, so this is just off what I've seen in general.[/quote]

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