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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It seems likely they would have been forced to leave (temporarily) if they didn’t consent. I think the difficult reinstatement policy is monstrous (as is the insensitive way they hustle kids off campus) but I think it’s clear they would have to take a leave in any case. If an employee attempted suicide in the workplace clearly they wouldn’t be able to fine to work the next day. [/quote]

How would they have known? And even if they somehow learned, assuming there’s no mental health provision in the enrollment agreement, they’d be on the hook for refunding tuition.[/quote]

They are adults and the doctors treating them were under the impression they were capable of consent (psychiatrists do evaluations of capacity routinely.)  Don’t get me wrong, there is lots wrong with Yale in this situation but I don’t think we can assume they thought they were literally forced to do it. [/quote]

Did you read the article? It’s clear she didn’t think she had a choice.[/quote]

I have. Again, I think Yale is a complete villain here but I think it’s possible that someone who just attempted suicide may have made a hasty decision they subsequently regret. People are legally entitled to do that. If she thinks she didn’t have capacity agree to something she could pursue that avenue I guess ( though she has since been re-admitted.) 
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So you’re saying she’s lying, both about what the staff said and about how she perceived it at the time.[/quote]

I didn’t mean to imply that she was lying. I think feeling pressured is not the same as being forced. In any case, they could (and would) have made her leave involuntarily if she hadn’t agreed to go voluntarily and that (despite Yale’s many other severe missteps) is appropriate imo. [/quote]

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