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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Those rules are offensive to students who actually prioritize their schoolwork. [/quote]

Only if you think the entire point of school is to rank students.

If you think it’s to get the most kids possible a basic level of knowledge so they can be productive members of society, it’s not.[/quote]

Another part of school is learning to be a productive citizen who not only has a basic level of knowledge but also has a work ethic,  knows how to meet expectations, handle deadlines, etc.  A basic level of functioning.

Ranking students is a way to bring in people's natural competitiveness in order to help them learn these skills, it's not the end goal.  [/quote]

This. Plus, like it or not, ranking matters for colleges. So yeah, if some slacker or disinterested kid has a shot at the same schools as a kid who actually did the work and didt have to do constant retakes- not ok. [/quote]

The idea that giving a high F on an assignment instead of a low F is going to make Lazy Larlo into your kid's competition is nonsense.[/quote]

It’s not about high F v low F. It’s about kids who would normally earn a D or a C earning B’s even though they have a significant number of missing assignments due to those missing assignments being marked as 50% instead of zero. It inflates the grades A LOT.[/quote]

It shouldn't inflate the grade because along with the 50% policy is the policy that assessments should make up the majority of the overall grade.  I am a math teacher... my classwork/homework assignments are worth 10% of the grade, and my tests/quizzes are worth 90% of the grade.  We are moving away from fluffing up the grade with "participation" and "homework" and moving toward mastery of the material as the determinant of the grade.  [/quote]

Well I can tell you it is not happening. My friends seem positively gleeful that their kids with missing assignments, late assignments, etc. are still able to get B's in classes. And my kid sees it on her feed and gets the feedback from upperclass friends about what classes to take ("class XXXX is super easy. I never turn in my work and I have a B.")

It inflates grades. A lot. [/quote]

This must be middle school and not HS.[/quote]

And is it really grade inflation to decide what assignments count towards grades? I have a ton of small, ungraded assignments as a college professor. If my students complete them, they get a better foundation for the major graded work.

If they don't, they tend to fail or do worse. That is a natural consequence If their decision. Not chasing them around to make them do the work.

If they are one of those students who doesn't need to do the extra work because they have a good handle on the material, then they're not penalized or forced to do ridiculous busy work for them

Homework and assessments aren't meant to inflate or deflate a grade.they are  supposed to help them move towards mastery.

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College students are experienced, mature, motivated and self-selected students.

High school students are not college students and shouldn't be expected to be.  Nor should middle school students.  [/quote]

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