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[quote=Anonymous]Using lofty language with a “holier than thou” tone won’t hide some important truths.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]“I don’t care about any of the issues with the church” - what? I can perhaps see remaining a Catholic while fighting for change/reform - but staying in a faith that allows the abuse of children, is misogynistic and homophobic makes no moral sense.  “I don’t care” negates any sense of ethics or personal responsibility. I left because of these factors - the superiority, clericalism and hate for others was not Christian.[/quote]

You might try actually researching things before posting these calumnies:

1. The Church does not “allow” the abuse of children; like other institutions, it has handled such allegations poorly at some times and places and better at other times and places. At present, the Church (particularly in the US) has child protection programs that vastly exceed those of many other institutions. [b]A preponderance of evidence clearly demonstrates otherwise. Persons in authority with knowledge of abuse who did nothing….for years. Pedophiles being reassigned to different parishes. Instances of abuse being covered up, ignored, and glossed over. Pedophiles being given free reign to prey upon the innocent and destroy their lives with little worry about punishment or retribution. Yes — the Church [u]did[/u] allow abuse, and it wasn’t until lawsuits started to mushroom across the country when the Church was forced to amend its ways.[/b]

2. The Church is not “mysogynistic.”  It treats men and women differently in virtue of their unique characteristics. How can a Church that venerated the Mother of God as co-redemptrix, and produced hundreds of canonized female saints be mysogynistic?  Focus on perceived ministerial opportunities to the exclusion of all else is narcissistic and ignores the plethora of opportunities within the Church for women to live lives dedicated to their Faith and the well being of others. [b]Mary and most female saints are venerated by the Church for their virginity and so-called purity, not for the fullness of their womanhood. Women are ranked as inferior in the Church simply because of their gender. They are barred from ordained ministry due to a conveniently narrow view of the theological concept of priesthood, as well as a subjective interpretation of Scripture. And go talk to a typical nun in North America about how she is overworked, underpaid, and receives the bare minimum support from the Church.[/b]

3. The Church is not “homophobic.”  It draws a distinction between persons and their actions. Homosexual orientation is recognized as morally neutral. Homosexual actions, like heterosexual actions outside Christian marriage, are objectively sinful. [b]Tough to be homophobic when the supermajority of your clergy is gay. It’s a pity, however, the Church doesn’t practice what it preaches.[/b]

Have you ever actually studied the theological and philosophical underpinnings of the teachings and practices you deride as making “no moral sense?”
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The Church does good in this world, but it’s also challenged by major issues that threaten to undermine the good it does. You would be wise to get your nose out of the Catechism and live in the real world.[/quote]

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