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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is the #7 school in the only ranking that matters to the overwhelming majority of people.  That alone makes JHU desirable.  Based on the formulas USNWR uses, that ranking is likely to go up. [/quote]

I like JHU but it struggles to win students from other schools despite whatever US News ranks it, which indicates US News isn't really that influential and the perceptions of schools that people have are fairly fixed. Obviously it loses to Harvard, MIT, and Princeton by a lot, but here's how it fairs against some other top schools:

[b]Some of the Ivy League[/b]

Johns Hopkins 16% - Yale 84%
Johns Hopkins 19% - Columbia 81%
Johns Hopkins 41% - Dartmouth 59%
Johns Hopkins 49% - Cornell 51%

The closest Johns Hopkins gets to winning a cross-admit battle is with Cornell, otherwise it gets handily defeated. It also does quite well against Dartmouth.

[b]Some of the Top Non-Ivy League[/b]

Johns Hopkins 15% - Stanford 85%
Johns Hopkins 19% - Duke 81%
Johns Hopkins 31% - UChicago 69%
Johns Hopkins 35% - Northwestern 65%
Johns Hopkins 44% - Rice 56%
Johns Hopkins 53% - WashU 47%
Johns Hopkins 61% - Vanderbilt 39%

It looks like Johns Hopkins is closer to schools like Rice, WashU, and Vanderbilt than the tippy-top schools like Stanford and Duke which are better than most of the Ivies anyways.[/quote]

Who cares? We just got ranked #7 on US News this year so preferences won't change overnight. Of course I don't expect us to win the cross-admit battle with Yale, Stanford, or Duke, but the other schools you listed are fair game. We got the biggest donation in higher ed history from Bloomberg a few years ago the more time it has to take effect, the more cross-admits we'll win.[/quote]

USNWR is influential, but there is a limit.  Princeton has been ranked ahead of Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc., for quite a while now, but it doesn't seem to have made any inroads in cross-admit preferences.   Harvard, despite not being at the top of USNWR or top in focus on undergraduate experience remains the number one choice among cross-admits.[/quote]

+1 Stanford was ranked #6 on US News for a long time, but still only lost the cross-admit battle to Harvard. Columbia was #2 for a while on US News while MIT was around #7, but it still got destroyed by MIT in the cross-admit battle. Duke keeps getting ranked super low on US News but it wins the cross admit battle against every school except HYPSM and ties with Penn and Columbia. UChicago was even ranked higher than Penn for a while but Penn still handily wins the cross-admit battle.[/quote]

MIT has become overrated by local parents and rankings that consider early career income as a large factor. Their STEM grads are not earning more than STEM grads at other elite schools. It is an excellent school but not in that Harvard and Stanford category. The "brand name" isn't the same either. MIT is associated with engineering in the same way Hopkins is associated with medicine, even though both are solid but probably not spectacular in other areas.[/quote]

You're just wrong. MIT excels in far more than just engineering: it's arguably the best school for economics, biology, psychology, math, and chemistry. It's also one of the top handful of schools in physics, political science, architecture, earth sciences, marine sciences, linguistics, media studies, business, statistics, astronomy, and more. It's a phenomenal, no-BS school that attracts the best students in the world.[/quote]

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