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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have spent a lot of time thinking about this. I have really bright students who score very high on standardized tests. They are smart and work very hard. I am sure in the future, they will have high SAT scores. However, I don't know if they will be as high as children from college educated parents due to life factors. I am ok with admitting some students with slightly lower scores when considering these factors. That would include students of all races. I do not think tests should be eliminated. [b]My experience is that 95% of students score within the range of their abilities[/b].[/quote] Abilities is one thing, but these tests measure the willingness to prep as much as they do abilities. Some kids can hack it on their own (yours truly, way back when), but others do get a leg up via paid help. I would love for colleges to start require to disclose any prep, paid and unpaid, received, with severe punishments for not being truthful. And putting a firewall between them and college consultants - no private convos, public information only. But they'll never do that because that's how those underpaid junior admission officers hope to make money in a few years.[/quote] What about tutoring for regular subjects to boost GPA??[/quote] Since tutor's have no way of knowing the exact content/style of a test, this isn't the same as SAT test prep. If a kid gets a tutor for Chemistry or biology, and the kid does well on the tests, it means they actually learned the information, not just the tricks of a specific test type. Which should be the ultimate goal. So AO know that kids from higher income families have more access to testing and those from lower income families/first gen/etc. have less access. But I wouldn't penalize a kid who uses tutoring to actually learn the material---whole point of school is to learn, and if you need a bit more help to do that, so be it. If you get that help and do the hard work, then you get the rewards. Same as in the real world---If I don't understand an assignment on my job, I seek out help/clarification to ensure I get the job done correctly. I don't get penalized for asking for help if I don't understand everything. However, I will get penalized if I dont' ask and I do the work wrong/dont' complete it. [/quote]
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