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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A post nuked Ukraine would get so much extra support/aid to rebuild that a non-nuked current trajectory Ukraine won’t [/quote]

Disagree.  The stakes of supporting a post nuked Ukraine are higher due to the radiological contamination. Soldiers would experience higher rates of cancer, birth defects, etc.  Its not clear at all why Ukraine would become a more appealing partner once doused in cancer causing material.  [/quote]

You come across as very self-entitled.

If Russians can do this to their own people, do you seriously think ANYONE in Russia cares what YOU think?

https://time.com/4313139/post-chernobyl-parade/

A few days after the deadly explosion on the 4th unit in Chernobyl nuclear power plant, people rallied to celebrate the International Workers' Day in Kiev, Ukraine, on May 1, 1986. Nobody cancelled the May Day parade in Kiev when thousands of people walked in columns along the streets, with songs, flowers and Soviet leaders portraits, covered with invisible clouds of fatal radiation.

May 1, 1986, was a beautiful day for the International Workers’ Day parade in Kharkov, Ukraine. Parades were the hallmark of the Soviet Union, red banners and optimism were the hallmarks of Soviet parades, and this one had plenty of both. Kharkov’s streets were filled with flags and continuous announcements of our city meeting and/or exceeding agricultural and industrial production benchmarks set by the Communist Party. The only oddity was the reviewing stands, where the city authorities stood, were mostly empty.

For the first two days the Kremlin kept silent, until inquiries from the Swedish government made it impossible to deny that something went terribly awry in Ukraine. Even then, the announcement made on state television was a 20-second statement explaining there was an issue at Chernobyl and the authorities were handling it. Following typical Soviet protocol, the announcement was followed by a hastily-assembled broadcast about nuclear mishaps by our capitalist adversaries at Three Mile Island and elsewhere in America. The May 1 parade went on as scheduled.

At the time, neither my family nor the rest of Ukraine knew about the suicide teams of firefighters sent in to extinguish the fire at Reactor 4, the ones who died horrific deaths of radiation exposure, but prevented an explosion that would’ve made Hiroshima seem tame. We didn’t know about the furious evacuation of Pripyat, the city nearest to Chernobyl. We didn’t know about Moscow’s decision to use silver iodide to precipitate an artificial rainstorm which downed much of the radiation over Belarus, where people and livestock would suffer from disease for decades to come.

Even 30 years later, much about Chernobyl and its aftermath remains clouded in secrecy and conspiracy theories. But the one undeniable fact is that Moscow didn’t cancel the May 1 parade.

Mikhail Gorbachev himself admitted Chernobyl helped hasten the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The Politburo’s decision to hold the May 1 parade rather than tell people to shelter indoors and honor the dead firefighters was an echo of 90 years before, when Nicolai the Bloody chose to dance at his coronation instead of mourning those trampled at Khodynka. To the Russian and Soviet psyche, it was a “let them eat cake” moment, a betrayal of public trust.

A few years ago my family had dinner with a fellow ex-Soviet Jew from Kharkov. Our guest was calm when he spoke of being denied work due to anti-Semitism and the million other forms of persecution faced by Soviet Jews. Then someone mentioned Chernobyl and suddenly his face was transformed with rage. “Those bastards,” he spat, “they didn’t cancel the parade.”[/quote]

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