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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]18:18 again.

Just a few days ago a Colorado police officer parked his cruiser, with a suspect in it, on train tracks. The cruiser and the woman inside were hit by a train. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/video-train-hits-police-car-woman-handcuffed-back-seat-fort-lupton-colorado/

Parks her on train tracks. On train tracks. Presumably the place where everyone knows not to park and he left a suspect parked there. [/quote]

This is truly awful.  However I am hoping it was just stupidity on the officers' part, and not intentional.

Unlike this guy who broke the arm of a dementia patient and then laughed about it.

https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/former-officer-sentenced-arrest-73-year-old-woman-with-dementia-that-broke-her-arm/WVRABH3HTZDEVK6T6RVLQ4QLWU/[/quote]
Bet the cops wife poster will bend over backwards to defend this.[/quote]

Sigh. No. I know a couple posters here would like me to, but as I have repeatedly said, I do not condone the horrific actions of some officers.

I simply don’t cast aspersions at wide groups of people. I don’t spit on or threaten officers as they go about their days doing their jobs, which has happened several times to my husband. I assume that’s acceptable behavior to a couple posters here. He just deserves it, correct?

I don’t hold police solely responsible for society’s faults. I also know, based on many interactions, volunteer experiences, and participation in community policing initiatives, that there is a lot of good work being done in communities. Instead of making things harder for everyone (police and citizens alike) by intentionally demeaning and denigrating people trying to be good officers and citizens, I choose to help.

I’m saddened by the fact that simply saying something positive caused so much hatred and hostility. I did notice that statistics I posted about use-of-force and police training did not receive angry retorts, which I take to mean that the facts were generally accepted. I wonder, then, why the hate?

You’re welcome to answer, but I’m done responding. This puts hate into the world, and that’s not my thing. [/quote]

No, you consider them part of your tribe so you "feel bad" when good cops aren't recognized despite the bad apples even when the topic is not about the good cops but the bad apples. Somehow you feel compelled to always talk about the good apples during this time. Do you ever stop to think why? Same thing happened to me with a friend who needed us all to understand that there were good priests when abuse allegations came out and me as a survivor of child sex abuse and the same religion could see right through it. You feel somewhat bad but not as much as you feel bad for cops not being recognized for their good works and on top of it all is your fear that this will harm the reputation of good cops and will make their job harder. In fact it's very obvious that you do lump all cops together because you are the one lumping the good cops with the bad cops and defending them, not the other way round. You are the one who feels you have to make this about good cops too. It's simply a hierarchical issue and a habit for you just like it is with all people that divert away from talking about other abuses. Top of your list is support cops and everything else comes below.[/quote]

I’m the PP. Supporting cops is on my list, but nowhere near the top. I’m actually far more interested in education. Also, please go back through this thread and find statements I’ve made that defend bad cops. It’ll take you some time because I haven’t made any. In fact, I’ve repeatedly acknowledged there are bad cops. You’ll find plenty of those statements attributed to me.

The only opposing viewpoint I offered is that it’s okay to acknowledge there are good officers. Doing so doesn’t erase the impact of bad officers. I’m capable of holding two thoughts at once, as I suppose most people on this site are. That viewpoint, however, was quickly rejected by a few posters who subscribe to the “they are all bad apples” opinion. [/quote]

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