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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]18:18 again.

Just a few days ago a Colorado police officer parked his cruiser, with a suspect in it, on train tracks. The cruiser and the woman inside were hit by a train. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/video-train-hits-police-car-woman-handcuffed-back-seat-fort-lupton-colorado/

Parks her on train tracks. On train tracks. Presumably the place where everyone knows not to park and he left a suspect parked there. [/quote]

This is truly awful.  However I am hoping it was just stupidity on the officers' part, and not intentional.

Unlike this guy who broke the arm of a dementia patient and then laughed about it.

https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/former-officer-sentenced-arrest-73-year-old-woman-with-dementia-that-broke-her-arm/WVRABH3HTZDEVK6T6RVLQ4QLWU/[/quote]
Bet the cops wife poster will bend over backwards to defend this.[/quote]

Sigh. No. I know a couple posters here would like me to, but as I have repeatedly said, I do not condone the horrific actions of some officers.

I simply don’t cast aspersions at wide groups of people. I don’t spit on or threaten officers as they go about their days doing their jobs, which has happened several times to my husband. I assume that’s acceptable behavior to a couple posters here. He just deserves it, correct?

I don’t hold police solely responsible for society’s faults. I also know, based on many interactions, volunteer experiences, and participation in community policing initiatives, that there is a lot of good work being done in communities. Instead of making things harder for everyone (police and citizens alike) by intentionally demeaning and denigrating people trying to be good officers and citizens, I choose to help.

I’m saddened by the fact that simply saying something positive caused so much hatred and hostility. I did notice that statistics I posted about use-of-force and police training did not receive angry retorts, which I take to mean that the facts were generally accepted. I wonder, then, why the hate?

You’re welcome to answer, but I’m done responding. This puts hate into the world, and that’s not my thing. [/quote]
Professional victim right here. I know you think you’re painting police in a positive light but your incessant nattering about how cops just aren’t that bad is painting you all in a worse light. I replied to your facts and figures and you reply with martyrdom, martyrdom you’re so deep into that you can’t even identify it as such. Like “I did notice that statistics I posted about use-of-force and police training did not receive angry retorts, which I take to mean that the facts were generally accepted. I wonder, then, why the hate?” I replied to two of your “statistics” posts with calm, fact based replies and you reply with “Nope, I’m sorry. I will not hate people because somebody on DCUM told me to.” No one told you to hate anyone, bub.

What you and all the other police force cheerleaders pretend not to see is that there are serious and deeply entrenched problems in police forces. Like the Oathkeepers who have been publicly identified. https://apnews.com/article/oath-keepers-leaked-membership-rolls-2ca4195ed3a10e45dd189bf98f3e5a26 Like [i]active[/i] white supremacists in police forces. https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/prevalence-white-supremacists-law-enforcement-demands-drastic-change-2022-05-12/ Like the amount of force used against Black people and in Black neighborhoods. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01846-z

When you and your husband’s career line pretend you’re high and mighty and above reproach, guess what? Innocent Black people are going to continue to get murdered. Mentally ill people are going to continue to get injured and murdered. People with hearing problems are going to continue to get beat down. People are going to continue to have a can of pepper spray emptied in their face for attempting to follow disparate commands. But you don’t see a problem and you sure as shoot don’t respond honestly.

So in fact you’re correct. You are putting hate out there. Your instinct to [i]not[/i] once again respond thoughtlessly, like a mynah bird, is the correct one. Don’t reply at all until you’ve actually read some of the dozen cites I know that [i]I’ve[/i] posted. Don’t come back until you want to learn something, because your endless cheerleading of racism and problems in the force in the face of facts is beyond irritating, it’s pathological. [/quote]

I read this and I don’t feel the response you intend for me to feel. I don’t feel insulted, angry, shown-up, or irritated. I only feel puzzled because the simple request to accept that some people have positive intentions is somehow deemed “pathological” with shades of “martyrdom.” It’s unfortunate that pointing out good is distorted into “hate” to you. I’ve made it BEYOND clear that I see the serious problems in policing. I’ve stated that several times, actually. You simply want that to be all I see and that’s not going to happen. I’ve witnessed too much, including multiple lives saved as recently as this year, to throw it all away.

I don’t understand your end game. You say I “don’t see a problem” when I clearly have acknowledged I do. You say I “don’t respond honestly,” yet nothing I have posted has been insincere. I simply asked for 800,000 people to not be blanketly condemned. Is that your end game? To condemn all officers?

There’s nothing I can learn from you. I’m sure you’ll respond about how I’m a lost cause, or ignorant, or some other insult… but you have shown that you do not respond with respect or good faith. [/quote]

DP.  You know what I find puzzling?  Why you seem to see yourself as more of a victim here then the dead black man.  This thread is not about you, and your level of self-absorption in continuing to make it all about yourself is astounding.[/quote]
I’m 9/26 21:09 and thank you for replying to the wordy troll more succinctly than I could. Let’s leave the troll to her own devices.

It’s good that these five individuals have been charged, but I still don’t see most police departments doing the work around getting white supremacists and garden variety racists out of the force. Not transferred. Not desk duty, out of the force altogether. It’s not like this is a new problem, though the growing awareness among White people is.[/quote]

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