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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Smart people tend to earn more money and intelligence is hereditary. Obviously anti-AAP folks are too dumb to understand correlated omitted variables. lol [/quote]
My kid is in AAP.  My husband and I have graduate degrees.  We are not dumb.  So I’m not AAP hater.  But the system is flawed.   Kids with high scores get rejected.  Kids whose parents have resources and know the system get in on appeal.   And it’s an accelerated program Vs a gifted program.  I think any reasonably intelligent person can see it’s flawed.  The people who get very defensive about any criticism of it to the point that they have to call people dumb shouldn’t be boasting about their intelligence. [/quote]

I guess what frosts me is this assertion that someone's kid is more deserving of opportunities like TJ because they were in AAP. Yes, my kids are in AAP, but so what. All kids deserve great opportunities, not just those whose parents know how to work the system. Lots of bright and gifted kids fallthrough the cracks. [/quote]

What is the evidence/why the assumption that the majority of AAP kids somehow game the system? I’m at an upper SES school and don’t know a single family that did this, maybe I’m just unaware. I parent referred my kid in second, and he wasn’t accepted. Reapplied in third, accepted for fourth. I didn’t talk to the principal or a teacher about it, I just did it on my own. How are people gaming a system? Don’t claim they’re all PTA mom kids. Our center school has a fairly inactive PTA.[/quote]

I don't know about the majority but many get in because their parents work the system.[/quote]

How. Are. They. Working. The. System?

You (and others) keep asserting that over and over again, but without any proof or even a solid allegation, for that matter. [/quote]

The last AAP Audit pointed to how families with higher SES end up with a higher percentage of kids in AAP then other families. It pointed to a higher propensity for parents to refer, parents to appeal, and parents to seek outside testing. FCPS removed the letters of recommendation from the AAP packet because it was noted that higher SES families were more likely to provide those and have kids in opportunities were someone could write a letter. FCPS also removed the awards section because higher SES families were more likely to have their kids involved in math competitions and music competitions.

Essentially, the rules allow all of the above but the Audit noted that as SES increase, the likelihood that parents used the rules increased. It also noted that Asian and White families were far more likely to use the various avenues in order to get their kids into AAP. And they are more likely to reapply. And reapply.

The parents are following the rules but the disparity in who is following those rules is leading to the process tightening. Test scores are no longer given much weight, they seem to be used only to establish the pool of automatic candidates. They removed the awards and letters of recommendation because they were biased towards people who could afford activities.

One of the recommendations from the Audit was to remove parent paid for testing and appeals. [/quote]

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